vsconv, sup and pallete

[Matthew]

This isn't a big 3 question exactly but that's the audience I want.

I'm going to be using D3s7's vsconv to extract sups from sub/idx and then author a new dvd (using MuxMan), but movie only.

I want to know if it is necessary to copy over the pallete from the original IFO i.e. with ScenAid in MuxMan/sup mode, in the IFOUpdate step, is the retail IFO's pallete left untouched (in which case I have to copy over the pallete), or is the pallete copied over from the MuxMan-produced IFO (in which case I do nothing).

Thanks :)

[influenza]

I alwasy copy the subcolors from the authored ifo to the original one (also when using muxman). i don't know if it's necessary in all cases, but I just do it. I do not use ifoupdate however, but batchupdateifo ;)

[Matthew]

Thanks for the reply.

That being the case, what is the palette in the mxp? Is it the MuxMan (Scenarist) default, or is it the palette from the original IFO? In the latter is true, then you are just copying the original colours back over the original colours (although there could be a slight difference due to YUV->RGB->YUV).

[jel]

hi matthew,

from memory, if using the combination of scenaid and muxman 0.15+ (not sure about earlier builds but i should think it would be the same), the palette from the re-authored subpictures *should* be identical to the original, as the .sup format preserves all effects and colours of the substream, and d3s7 scripts the palette info into the .mxp.

so ... if you are using the muxman generated ifo's in lieu of the originals, your subs should appear to be the same .... not sure if dest is scripting all the ifo commands into the .mxp though ....

[Matthew]

d3s7 scripts the palette info into the .mxp.

Thanks jel.

The idx includes the original palette (RGB) in hexadecimal format, so I can convert that to decimal and put those values into the mxp :)

Although I suppose in my case using IFOUpdate's colour copying and not using it for the big 3 (if I used them) could produce slighly more accurate results.