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Sirber
9th September 2005, 13:30
* Automated update to streamline product upgrades. Notification of an update is more prominent, and updates to Firefox may now be half a megabyte or smaller. Updating extensions has also improved.
* Faster browser navigation with improvements to back and forward button performance.
* Drag and drop reordering for browser tabs.
* Improvements to popup blocking.
* Clear Private Data feature provides an easy way to quickly remove personal data through a menu item or keyboard shortcut.
* Answers.com is added to the search engine list.
* Improvements to product usability including descriptive error pages, redesigned options menu, RSS discovery, and "Safe Mode" experience.
* Better accessibility support including DHTML accessibility.
* Report a broken Web site wizard to report Web sites that are not working in Firefox.
* Better support for Mac OS X (10.2 and greater) including profile migration from Safari and Mac Internet Explorer.
* New support for Web Standards including SVG, CSS 2 and CSS 3, and JavaScript 1.6.
* Many security enhancements.
* List of notable bug fixes since Deer Park Alpha 2http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/

Sirber
9th September 2005, 13:56
Bug found:
* Java doesn't work

Axed
9th September 2005, 15:03
* Automated update to streamline product upgrades. Notification of an update is more prominent, and updates to Firefox may now be half a megabyte or smaller. Updating extensions has also improved.

Ah good, i was hoping to see better updating in firefox. Thats one of my only peeves with it. A friend of mine who still uses Windows 98 (i know :rolleyes: ) has weird problems occasionally when it comes to upgrading extentions especially.

Sirber
9th September 2005, 15:16
Firefox load terribly faster. pages loads faster too! Great work!! :D

sysKin
9th September 2005, 15:17
..and my personal favorite change:
* real, working and beautiful error pages instead of evil model dialogs

:)

Sirber
9th September 2005, 17:40
Server not found
* Check the address for typing errors such as
ww.example.com instead of
www.example.com

* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.

* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.Less evil indeed :D

zilog jones
9th September 2005, 17:57
Meh, I've been using Opera for at least 3 years and I'm not going to change any time soon...

Koepi
10th September 2005, 08:07
Don't forget to type in about:config in your mozilla-based browser and set network.enableIDN to false.

Even Beta1 of DeerPark still includes the critical bug which got unveiled thursday.

Cheers
Koepi

Axed
10th September 2005, 15:24
One other thing i wish they would set default to off is that annoying search sound when you hit ctrl-f and type in letters, but it isnt on the page it does that weird sound.

Thanks for the heads up on that one Koepi, i should read news sites more often..

Sirber
10th September 2005, 16:28
Don't forget to type in about:config in your mozilla-based browser and set network.enableIDN to false.

Cheers
KoepiWhat does that do?

[edit]

http://kennethhunt.com/archives/001261.html

Should be fixed by now...

Sirber
10th September 2005, 16:30
Also, set "network.http.pipelining" to true. Should boost speed.

wmansir
10th September 2005, 20:41
I can't wait for this to go final. My install has become a bit bloated and right now neither Flash or video work in browser. Video actually crashes it immediately upon opening the page. I'm sure it's a extension problem since they both use to work fine.

I'm putting off a fresh install until 1.5 is final because, while I love the customization FF allows, it's too much work getting everything set up just right. Also, by that point I'm hopeful most of my extensions will work with Deer Park.

Answers.com is added to the search engine list
I assume this means it has been added to the default list. It must have been available at Mycroft for a while. I think they should include fewer engines since adding them is very easy but removing them isn't. Or at least include a method in the browser for their removal.

foxyshadis
10th September 2005, 23:17
What does that do?

[edit]

http://kennethhunt.com/archives/001261.html

Should be fixed by now...
That's the old vulnerability, there's a new one this week:
https://addons.mozilla.org/messages/307259.html
http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/09/firefox_netscap.html

This is a plain old buffer overflow, scourge of C++, not a spoofing mechanism.

It used to be I'd jump on something like this, especially since it's a faster and I've heard they fixed the massive memory leaks when browsing large images, but my beta browsing days are over. I hope it's still on schedule to be released fully tested in a few weeks.

Neo Neko
10th September 2005, 23:59
I can't wait for this to go final. My install has become a bit bloated and right now neither Flash or video work in browser. Video actually crashes it immediately upon opening the page. I'm sure it's a extension problem since they both use to work fine.

I'm putting off a fresh install until 1.5 is final because, while I love the customization FF allows, it's too much work getting everything set up just right. Also, by that point I'm hopeful most of my extensions will work with Deer Park.


I assume this means it has been added to the default list. It must have been available at Mycroft for a while. I think they should include fewer engines since adding them is very easy but removing them isn't. Or at least include a method in the browser for their removal.

I installed 1.5 B1 and almost none of my extensions worked. Save adblock and one other. But the more noticable ones like mouse guestures and tabbed browsing extensions did not. I have dealt with this before though. Chances are most extensions will work fine as is. That is after one small change. save the install xpi files to your HD. Then un-zip them with your favorite un-zipper. There should be an install.rdf or some such in the base of the archive structure. Open it in notepad, wordpad, emacs. vi, or nano. Look for a line about firefox and max version. Chances are that the value there is 1.0+ which should mean anything 1.0 or greater should work. Should being the operative term. In the past though it has rarely happened that way. If you edit max version to at least 1.5, then rezip the archive with an xpi extension. Uppon dragging and dropping anywhere in the browser window should automagically install itself with no problems at all. Chances are before 2.0 there will not be much changing to break extensions. So you could bump max version to 1.9 or so which should keep you from having to re-install most extensions through several release milestones. Though trunk builds could be a different issue. Also this "may" interfere with the auto-update feature. Then again maybe not.

Unfortunatly none of my peves has been addressed. Storing the site favorite icon in the bookmark HTML is rediculous this day and age. First of all the file should be XML by now. And second the fav icons should be stored in their original binary format zipped along with the bookmarks.xml in a file named bookmarks.moz or some such. The other one also involving fav icons is that if when vewing a site that uses a favorite icon. If you click another bookmark to a site that does not use one before the current page has finished loading. The fav icon for the previous page gets automagically assigned to the bookmark of the new page and never goes away. Without use of a special extension or editing it manually that is. I have found a software called AM-Deadlink that will check to see that bookmarks still work and that things like the fav icons are correct. Works as advertised. But the odd thing is that even on my athlon XP 3200+ system something as simple as removing the site favorite icon form all the bookmarks in my file takes 30+ minutes at 100% CPU usage. I admit it isn't a small file 560+ bookmarks weighing in at almost 1Mb with all the fav icons. But I thought surely this could be done better. So I did. I wrote a spiffy little *currently CLI only* program that cleaned out my bookmarks.html in about 1/900th the time of AM-deadlink. Dropping the file to 1/10th it's size. If anyone is interested I have attached it. It will run under Windows or anywhere mono runs. No warranties. Make backups. :p Maybe I will manage to turn it into something more usefull.

Neo Neko
11th September 2005, 00:02
That's the old vulnerability, there's a new one this week:
https://addons.mozilla.org/messages/307259.html
http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/09/firefox_netscap.html

This is a plain old buffer overflow, scourge of C++, not a spoofing mechanism.

It used to be I'd jump on something like this, especially since it's a faster and I've heard they fixed the massive memory leaks when browsing large images, but my beta browsing days are over. I hope it's still on schedule to be released fully tested in a few weeks.

Roadmap says before the year is out. So you might be supprised/dissapointed.

shevegen
11th September 2005, 01:24
Difference between Opera - Firefox. The Source Model.

I believe it would be better to support Open Sourced Browsers.

Personally I'd love to see more open source browsers available, but it
seems as if its a task that means a LOT of manpower and hours invested into
it (I mean for a fully fledged browser, dillo is nice but nowhere as capable as Firefox and Opera).


Btw I am a hardcore Firefox user since the end of 2003

Sirber
11th September 2005, 15:45
Java problem fixed by getting an updated Adblock which works with 1.5 :)

Zyphon
12th September 2005, 19:19
Thanks Sirber for the FF update info. :D

movax
13th September 2005, 04:03
I like it...fast and stable. The beginning of internal squabbles with the Firefox team (or maybe a lot of mozilla.org) is kind of bugging me though, and makes me doubt the further life of Firefox.

Ah well, I have meh free regcodes from that Opera event, unless they did something evil like making those codes time limited. :devil:

wmansir
13th September 2005, 04:16
Neo Neko

Take a look at the Nightly Tester Tool (http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/buildid/nightly.html), which will allow you to force "incompatible" extensions to install. I haven't tried it myself because I've decided to wait for final releases.

movax
13th September 2005, 04:32
Thanks wmansir, that helped a lot :)

As an off-topic addition, I'd like to add a giant WTF at discovering my sound was borked because of some internal speakers in the comp that activate when a headphone plug is halfway in. A great discovery.