No subtitles!!!!

[corex]

I am about to convert a lot of my DVD's to have them on my Media Server.

I have, without any problems, converted many of them. Nice! But one of them is strange. I cant get any subs on it.

Log:
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] AutoGK 2.16b
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Job started.
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Input file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_0.IFO
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Output file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\lotr1-1.avi
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Output codec: XviD
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Subtitles 1: Dansk : Wide/Letterbox
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Format: .AVI
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Target quality: 75%
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Custom audio settings: Original
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Started encoding.
[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Demuxing and indexing.
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Processing file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Processing file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Processing file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Processing file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Processing file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Processing file: W:\dvd\lotr1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Source resolution: 720x576
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Found PAL source.
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[06-09-2005 00:34:01] Analyzing source.
[06-09-2005 00:38:46] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 0,00
[06-09-2005 00:38:46] Source is considered to be progressive.
[06-09-2005 00:38:46] Output will contain 151971 frames
[06-09-2005 00:38:46] Preparing subtitles.
[06-09-2005 00:42:47] Running single pass encoding.
[06-09-2005 00:42:47] Writing the following script to W:\dvd\lotr1-1\agk_tmp\lotr1-1_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\vsfilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("W:\dvd\lotr1-1\agk_tmp\lotr1-1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
VobSub("W:\dvd\lotr1-1\agk_tmp\lotr1-1.idx")
===========================================================
[06-09-2005 02:32:54] Duration was: 1 hour, 50 minutes 7 seconds
[06-09-2005 02:32:54] Speed was: 23,00 fps.
[06-09-2005 02:32:54] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 2 minutes 52 seconds

Any explanation????

I have downloaded the latest beta - still same result. But AutoGK 2.16b only ran "single pass encoding". Previous version ran 2 pass encoding ????

/CoRex

[corex]

No one????

[manono]

Hi-

[06-09-2005 00:30:01] Target quality: 75%

All versions can do 1-pass or 2-pass. You set it up for a 1-pass Quality Mode. If you had set it up for a size (1 CD, 2 CD, etc) it would have run 2 passes.

As for not getting any subs, that's more difficult. Did you run the Preview trying out different subtitle streams? Did you check the IDX file that was created to see if it had any time stamps? I see this is an LOTR movie? And you wanted the Elvish talk, maybe? Maybe it's not a Forced Subtitle stream (I forget now), but has its own Stream. If so, don't check the "Forced Subtitles" box. Anyway, run the Preview before wasting all the time encoding, to make sure you have it right.

[corex]

Hi and thanks for your help.

Yes, it is LOTR movie. And yes, I absolutely agree - there should'n be any subs on such fine movie. :) But my kids wants subtitles.

The Forced Subtitles have not been checked.

VTS_01_PGC_01 - Stream Information.txt:
0x20 - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 15469 / PTS: 00:00:32.567 / Delay: 32280ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Dansk - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 15541 / PTS: 00:00:32.727 / Delay: 32440ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Svenska - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 15657 / PTS: 00:00:32.927 / Delay: 32640ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Suomi - [SubPicture 04: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 15521 / PTS: 00:00:32.687 / Delay: 32400ms
0x28 - Subtitle - Islenska (Icelandic) - [SubPicture 05: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 15690 / PTS: 00:00:33.007 / Delay: 32720ms
0x29 - Subtitle - Norsk - [SubPicture 06: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 11501 / PTS: 00:00:24.287 / Delay: 24000ms
0x2A - Subtitle - English - [SubPicture 07: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 2309499 / PTS: 01:15:58.567 / Delay: 4558280ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 118 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x82 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 120 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 121 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 122 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x85 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 123 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x86 - Audio - AC3 / 2ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 124 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x89 - Audio - DTS / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 119 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 1 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms

Can you use this info?

I will try to play arround with preview and subtitles.

Thanks for your patience with a newbie.

/CoRex

[corex]

If I preview with "0x20 - Subtitle - English" chosen, it works.
If I preview with "0x25 - Subtitle - Dansk" chosen, it does NOT works.
If I preview with "0x26 - Subtitle - Svenska" chosen, it does NOT works.

Only the first one.

[manono]

Hi-

I'm not sure I can help, then. This may be a job for len0x. Can you confirm that the subs were actually created, even if they didn't show up in the AVI? Open the IDX file, like with Notepad, and below all the writing at the top, should be many, many Timestamps, which refer to the actual sub pictures stored in the companion SUB file. Perhaps other people have some ideas about the problem.

[corex]

Another guy with a similar problem (I think) http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99297 wrote at the end:
I figured out what was the problem.. In some DVD that come with magazines there is a "subtitles mapping" problem (if I'm saying it correctly). The subtitle streams start from 0x21 instead of 0x20.. I chose remaping to 0x20 through DVD Decrypter, edited the stream_information text file and the problem was solved..

I have tried the same thing. Remapped all subs to 0x20 and counting. Also modified the stream-file. Same result -> no subs.

In the idx-file there are 1039 lines starting with "timestamp:". :) And the sub-file-size is 4.710.400 bytes. So yes, I can confirm that.

Start of idx-file:
# VobSub index file, v7 (do not modify this line!)
#
# To repair desyncronization, you can insert gaps this way:
# (it usually happens after vob id changes)
#
# delay: [sign]hh:mm:ss:ms
#
# Where:
# [sign]: +, - (optional)
# hh: hours (0 <= hh)
# mm/ss: minutes/seconds (0 <= mm/ss <= 59)
# ms: milliseconds (0 <= ms <= 999)
#
# Note: You can't position a sub before the previous with a negative value.
#
# You can also modify timestamps or delete a few subs you don't like.
# Just make sure they stay in increasing order.


# Settings

# Original frame size
size: 720x576

# Origin, relative to the upper-left corner, can be overloaded by aligment
org: 0, 0

# Image scaling (hor,ver), origin is at the upper-left corner or at the alignment coord (x, y)
scale: 100%, 100%

# Alpha blending
alpha: 100%

# Smoothing for very blocky images (use OLD for no filtering)
smooth: OFF

# In millisecs
fadein/out: 50, 50

# Force subtitle placement relative to (org.x, org.y)
align: OFF at LEFT TOP

# For correcting non-progressive desync. (in millisecs or hh:mm:ss:ms)
# Note: Not effective in DirectVobSub, use "delay: ... " instead.
time offset: 0

# ON: displays only forced subtitles, OFF: shows everything
forced subs: ON

# The original palette of the DVD
palette: ded864, e83f07, 000000, fdfdfd, 533d12, 885a26, 5d411e, e8f6af, 2f2f2f, e6ff37, 373302, 93830a, 5d3f12, 885a26, d2ab0f, eaeae8

# Custom colors (transp idxs and the four colors)
custom colors: OFF, tridx: 0000, colors: 000000, 000000, 000000, 000000

# Language index in use
langidx: 1

# Dansk
id: da, index: 1
# Decomment next line to activate alternative name in DirectVobSub / Windows Media Player 6.x
# alt: Dansk
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 1 (PTS: 0)

/CoRex

[manono]

Yeah, they look OK to me. Here's something else to check. In the AutoGK FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=72679), Question 3.4 says:

3.4 Subtitles are out of synch/absent. What's wrong?

- Angle and PGC file naming probably was not used AutoGK has not idea about what was ripped. Of course sometimes DVD can be badly mastered, in which case you have to manually deal with them. Also subs will not be shown properly if you selected only several chapters/cells from PGC as VobSub only works with the whole vobset. As of version 2.12 AutoGK presents a choice of PGCs/Angles to the user upon parsing of IFO file - make sure to select the correct ones. If you don't use subs then selection is not used and you don;t have to select the correct PGC/Angle.

So, go back into DVD Decrypter and up at the top go Tools->Settings->IFO Mode, and in the lower right corner, inside of the File Names box, make sure that you have both "Include PGC Number" and "Include Angle Number" checked. However, from your Stream Information.txt information that you posted earlier, it looks as if you may already have those boxes checked.

[corex]

However, from your Stream Information.txt information that you posted earlier, it looks as if you may already have those boxes checked.
There ARE checked.

[len0x]

# ON: displays only forced subtitles, OFF: shows everything
forced subs: ON


There is a good chance that sub stream doesn't have forced subs at all, just normal ones (unlike english stream). So that option should be switched off.

[corex]

I think I already tried that, but to be sure I test it again. I post results tomorrow. Time to go to bed. :)

Thanks len0x

[manono]

Damn, I missed that. Good one, len0x. However, I did ask corex earlier in the thread if he had the Forced Subs box checked, and he said no. Hope that's it.

[corex]

Damn, I missed that. Good one, len0x. However, I did ask corex earlier in the thread if he had the Forced Subs box checked, and he said no. Hope that's it.
That was test nr. 1 and there it WAS off. This is test nr. ? :)

[corex]

I made a preview with all the subs remapped. This time i DID see danish subtitles. Weeee! :)

I then startet to convert the movie. After some time it comes with an error from VirtualDub:
Avisynth open failure:
Script error: there is no function named "WriteFile"
(F:\dvd\vob\1-1\agk_tmp\_.avs, line 10)

I can make a preview, but convert the movie.

[09-09-2005 07:30:33] AutoGK 2.16b
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Job started.
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Input file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_0.ifo
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Output file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\1-1.avi
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Output codec: XviD
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Audio 1: English AC3 6ch
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Subtitles 1: Dansk : Wide/Letterbox
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Format: .AVI
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Target size: 1500Mb
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Started encoding.
[09-09-2005 07:30:33] Demuxing and indexing.
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Processing file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Processing file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Processing file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Processing file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Processing file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_5.VOB
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Processing file: F:\dvd\vob\1-1\VTS_01_PGC_01_6.VOB
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Source resolution: 720x576
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Found PAL source.
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[09-09-2005 07:57:06] Analyzing source.
*************************************
EXCEPTION: Cannot open file "F:\dvd\vob\1-1\agk_tmp\interlace.log". The system cannot find the file specified
*************************************
[09-09-2005 09:51:43] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 21 minutes 10 seconds

I can see I take a lot of time from you guys. I am so happy you want to help. :)

[len0x]

you don't have avisynth 2.5.5 properly installed...

[corex]

OK, don't know what happened to my avisynth. I de-installed all. Installed "AutoGK 1.96", downloaded and installed "AutoGK 2.17 beta". I ran the conversion again on both the standard IFO-rip and on the IFO-rip that have been remapped.

The remapped version works. So the conclusion is, if you have trouble's with missing subtitles, maybe you need to remap a few. Remember to modify the " - Stream Information.txt" as well.

len0x, is that something that AutoGK can handle in the future or is it impossible?

Thanks for all your help. I am a little wiser after this. :)

[corex]

len0x, is that something that AutoGK can handle in the future or is it impossible?

[len0x]

remastering of IFO/VOB files is definitely out of scope for AutoGK...

[corex]

remastering of IFO/VOB files is definitely out of scope for AutoGK...
I am not talking about remastering. Maybe a stupid question, but I thought that AutoGK maybe could handle wrongly mapped tracks. But, again, I am only a newbie in this area. :) So I am guessing.

In my situation, the first subtitle was 0x20, the next one was 0x25.