Problem: can not rip DVD-9 video disk

[alexVS]

I have a DVD-9 video disk. Size is 7.3 Gb
Disk is not playable on PC (DVD-RW NEC 2510A, DVD-ROM ASUS). I could copy other DVD-9 disks on both drives before.
This disk plays fine in WinDVD until half of the film is reached, then stops, WinDVD hangs.

When I try to copy this DVD-9 disk with CloneDVD, CloneDVD writes in its log:
"Processing stopped"
"Layer break is not found"
"Processing stopped: E:/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_4.VOB Read error"

DVD Decrypter stops at about 50%, DVD Fab also can not copy this disk.
(Additional INFO by DVDDecrypter: "Source media implementation Identifier: Sonic Scenarist 3.0")

BUT: It plays fine on stationary DVD-ROM player.
I don't think there is any protection on this disk at all.

Question: how to make backup copy of this DVD?

[the_hofers]

Hi, I suggest you clean the DVD with water & soap. Are there any scratches?

[alexVS]

No.
I have changed disk for another. The same thing.

[the_hofers]

Tried DVD Shrink? Besides, I have ripped two DVDs that neither DVD Shrink nor DVD Decrypter had coped with with DVD Copy Tools. This is a shareware programme that when uninstalled and later reinstalled "forgets" its 14-day trial limit and believes it has been installed on the respective PC for the first time, so the 14 days begin anew.

[setarip_old]

@alexVS

Since you state that you believe the DVD doesn't have any copy protection, try simply using Windows to copy all of the files on it to your hard drive (a missing layer break should have no effect on this method)...

[nfinney]

hey Alex, the same exact thinged happened to my Casino: 10th anniversary edition DVD. It was a flipper disc, and it would stop at about 50% on both sides of the DVD. Turns out that it was a media problem and that many people were experiencing the same error.

So if I were you I would send an email to whoever produced the DVD and request a new copy.

[alexVS]

Yeah, perhaps it's a disks problem. I tried 2 different disks with this movie and can't read it on PC.

vobs 1,2,5,6,7 are OK (and can be read at high speed).
vobs 3,4 can be read slowly, with many retries. After a long time I had copied vob3, but vob4 stoped at 60% and all.

It's all about layer break of DVD9.
But my standalone DVD player reads it perfectly.

[BSpielbauer]

But my standalone DVD player reads it perfectly.

This is meaningless, for the most part. All standalone DVD players are programmed to ignore errors, and to try to correct for errors, and to even "reconstitute" lost cells, if necessary. Their purpose is to continue to PLAY, so they were designed with that in mind. If they can possibly deceive you (the viewer) into thinking there was nothing wrong with the reading process, they will. That is deliberate.

When you try to rip, though, this is a different story. The authors of the ripping software understand the importance of every individual file, and every individual cell, and every individual tag that accompanies a cell. The software is designed to try to retrieve EVERY individual "one" and "zero" that makes up the data. A very few (like DVDDecrypter) may have some options that allow you to to try to skip some errors, but you use these at your own risk, since you may have acidentally just skipped over some crucial data which causes the ripped files to be useless, due to a structure problem.

(By the way, playback software on your PC is designed to do the same as the standalone players -- fake its way through any errors, so you are not aware of them, whenever possible).

My initial guesses, so far (since you have given us very little to go on, even the name of the disc) -- dirty disc; a bad pressing of the original disc; a structure problem with the source disc (especially if it is a burned backup of a disc);

Since you mentioned you have tried with DVDDecrypter, already, why not post a log?

Tough to try to diagnose, with so little info...

Hope this helps as you try to diagnose this problem,

-Bruce

[CWR03]

It's also conceivable that there's a problem with your optical drive(s).