When will it end?

[mrchri5]

While I agree there will always be a way to copy current generations dvd's I also agree with some of the other posters that its not really worth the trouble. I remember when I first tried to get into vcd's and such you had to really do some studying for everything to work. then along came dvd writers and programs like dvd shrink and with dvdd you could do everything in 2 simple steps.

They are relentless and will never stop trying to stop you. they have the cash and the time to do anything. I bet it will be even worse when hd-dvd comes out. it will probably be so complicated and time consuming to make it not even worth the trouble.

I do think its easier just to buy the original and take care of it. SOME dvds are gettng cheaper. I am very angered to see something like the original twilight zones priced so high. Rod Serling must really need the cash. It just amazes me that they can charge so much for something created 40 years ago and was free to watch on tv then.

I get so tired of hearing I want to back it up in case it gets scratched or unplayable. These discs can tear up just like you can spill something on your nice pristine novel and make it unreadbale. I would guess probably 25% or less of people that "backup" dvd's are doing it for legeitamate reasons. I live in the usa and almost every work environment ive seen has a few people selling bootleg dvd's.

Although I dont think its right to steal I dont feel sorry for the movie industry. When we buy these things or go to the movies we are just paying for their fancy cars and houses and the dirty women they bring home while the rest of us have to work very hard for a living for the rest of our lives. I've also enjoyed reading novels and although there can be some junk there it sort of separates you from the expensive electronic world and sometimes I wonder why I even bother to watch movies at all.

[Neo Neko]

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I do think its easier just to buy the original and take care of it. SOME dvds are gettng cheaper. I am very angered to see something like the original twilight zones priced so high. Rod Serling must really need the cash. It just amazes me that they can charge so much for something created 40 years ago and was free to watch on tv then.

Thing is it wasn't free back then. You did pay for it. Though indirectly. And since it is theirs they are free to charge whatever they think the market will bear. Even if it is a bit of a rip-off.

I get so tired of hearing I want to back it up in case it gets scratched or unplayable. These discs can tear up just like you can spill something on your nice pristine novel and make it unreadbale. I would guess probably 25% or less of people that "backup" dvd's are doing it for legeitamate reasons. I live in the usa and almost every work environment ive seen has a few people selling bootleg dvd's.

If you own the DVD any reason you do it for is legitimate as long as it is for your own use etc. And you may be lucky. Some people have negative environmental factors to contend with for the life of their DVDs. Factors like children. And let me tell you. Disney is as overpriced as they come. And they are generally the first things to get destroyed. Backing up is not only prudent. But downright necessary in light of Eisners highway robbery etc.

Although I dont think its right to steal I dont feel sorry for the movie industry. When we buy these things or go to the movies we are just paying for their fancy cars and houses and the dirty women they bring home while the rest of us have to work very hard for a living for the rest of our lives. I've also enjoyed reading novels and although there can be some junk there it sort of separates you from the expensive electronic world and sometimes I wonder why I even bother to watch movies at all.

Pirating(as inadequate and incorrect a term as it is) is not stealing. But I don't feel sorry for either side. Hollywood never loses no matter how much they cry about it. But no one has any sort of right to other peoples creations. Even if they didn't create it and just bought the rights from the actual creator.

[bongoman31]

I agree, Neo. Look at Sony, how they've gone after Decryptor, yet it won't change much, long-run. But the most ironic thing is, I have a Sony- camcorder, dual layer disk burner, use thier media, quite often...etc. They are really biting the hand that feeds them, overall.
Just my $.02

[Doobie]

While I agree there will always be a way to copy current generations dvd's I also agree with some of the other posters that its not really worth the trouble.

Many of us did it for the challenge.

They are relentless and will never stop trying to stop you. they have the cash and the time to do anything. I bet it will be even worse when hd-dvd comes out. it will probably be so complicated and time consuming to make it not even worth the trouble.

I'm sure the replacement for DVDs will have pretty strong copy protection. But, there will still probably be the analogue hole (else, everyone with current generation monitors and TVs won't be able to watch HD-DVD, I doubt the media companies are willing to write off such a large chunk of the market) to allow copying

I do think its easier just to buy the original and take care of it.

Taking care of it means not using it. If you use a CD or DVD regularly, it will eventually be damaged enough to cause problems. And, also you appear not to have any children, maybe you've never been a kid yourself, but kids will trash your DVDs.

Rod Serling must really need the cash. It just amazes me that they can charge so much for something created 40 years ago and was free to watch on tv then.

This represents one of the corruptions of copyright law. The US Constitution allows copyright law for the explicit purpose of encouraging content creation. Now, copyright laws has been corrupted and turned into something to create cash cars long after the original content creators have died or otherwise movied on, far beyond anything the Constitution intended.

The original copyright law was for 14 years. Now, if I produced a copyrighted work, assuming I live another 70 years, you'd have to wait 140 years before you can reproduce that work. This assumes the unlikely event that congress won't extend copyright protections again, as soon Micky Mouse is about to go public domain, again.

I would guess probably 25% or less of people that "backup" dvd's are doing it for legeitamate reasons. I live in the usa and almost every work environment ive seen has a few people selling bootleg dvd's.

I've never personally have come across anyone selling bootleg DVDs.

Although I dont think its right to steal I dont feel sorry for the movie industry.

It's a corruption of your thinking to equate copyright infringement, a purely statutory crime, with theft. Why don't you want to ban libraries?

[fccHandler]

A couple of minor corrections:

Rod Serling doesn't need the cash, he died 30 years ago.
And Sony didn't kill DVDDecryptor, Macrovision did that.

Now carry on... ;)

[mrchri5]

A couple of minor corrections:

Rod Serling doesn't need the cash, he died 30 years ago.
And Sony didn't kill DVDDecryptor, Macrovision did that.

Now carry on... ;)


actually I was just trying to be sarcastic about that :D

[reepa]

"I'm sure the replacement for DVDs will have pretty strong copy protection. But, there will still probably be the analogue hole (else, everyone with current generation monitors and TVs won't be able to watch HD-DVD, I doubt the media companies are willing to write off such a large chunk of the market) to allow copying"

The funny thing is, I just read this on slashdot:http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/05/08/22/1639259.shtml?tid=196&tid=190

[Sirber]

IMO, the more they restrict, the more they get hack. The better the protection, the better the hacking tools. Will we hear about modchip for PC?

[Doobie]

The funny thing is, I just read this on slashdot:http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/05/08/22/1639259.shtml?tid=196&tid=190

Somewhere, you'll be able to buy a video card that will decode HDCP and output to a regular monitor. Sony's PS3 apparently will output blue-ray content to standard HDTV, unless they expect everyone to buy new monitors along with the PS3.

[Doobie]

Rod Serling doesn't need the cash, he died 30 years ago.

That's part of the point.

[zeszut]

The original copyright law was for 14 years. Now, if I produced a copyrighted work, assuming I live another 70 years, you'd have to wait 140 years before you can reproduce that work.

Were this law in effect when Walt Disney was alive, his "creative" output would be next to nothing. Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Snow White, etc are pretty much derivitave from stories published in the 19th century. The current copyright laws would have forbade old Walt from using them.

I guess his only creation would be ... Mickey.

I do think its easier just to buy the original and take care of it.

I assume there are no children in your household. A scratched DVD with peanut butter and jelly in the scratches (and the DVD in the player with kids screaming that it's "not playing!") is a wonderful experience.