Some lines still visible after Telecide

[benten2000]

Being only new to Avisynth I've been working on converting some R1 anime dvd's.
So far after some reading and testing i've managed to remove the interlaced frames using this script

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mpeg2dec3.dll")
mpeg2source("E:\ROD eps\19\files\19.d2v")
Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()

[yes it's very basic as i'm new to it all]

But there are still some frames that have the effect on it (mainly when people are speaking)

Screen cap with problem (http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2414/lines1gr.jpg)

I have even tried using the vthresh function under Telecide to try and remove it but did nothing.
Hope someone can help a beginner out. Cheers

[Guest]

Please cut out a fragment of the VOB that shows the problem using ChopperXP (or equivalent). Then either post a link to the VOB fragment, or upload it to my FTP server in a subdirectory called benten2000 and PM me when it is available. Up to 100Mbytes is OK.

Almost invariably, we need the source clip to diagnose your problem.

BTW, mpeg2dec3 is very old. You may find the DGMPGDec package more satisfying.

[benten2000]

Will get piece of the vob sorted now.

[Guest]

OK. I'm off to the pool, so I'll look at it tonight. Maybe someone else will help you before then.

[Guest]

I have a few minutes before leaving for the pool. :)

I processed your 2.vob using DGMPGDec 141b6, using Honor Pulldown Flags. I used this script to serve into VirtualDub:

MPEG2Source("E:\tmp\benten2000\2.d2v",cpu=0)
telecide(order=0,guide=1)

I did not see any combing on the mouths.

Perhaps you had the order parameter set wrong. In DGIndex, use Tools/Parse D2V to find out the correct field order. If it shows BFF, use order=0; if it shows TFF, use order=1.

If you still have a problem, tell me how to recreate it using the VOBs you uploaded.

[benten2000]

Hmm very strange, I will have a go at it now.
I have been using DVD2AVI to make the d2v, using the Video>Field Operation>None (taken from an anime encoding guide) [dunno if this could be my problem]

[Guest]

dunno if this could be my problem Yes, it could be.

[benten2000]

Just tried DGIndex 1.4.0 to make my d2v and then then same way I was using before to encode 2 episodes + using the DGDecode.dll as suggested in my avs and they came out excellent.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll")
MPEG2source("E:\ROD eps\17\files\17.d2v")
Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()

Thanx for all the help neuron2

Should look into some filters now to make it look even better (so many to choose)

[Guest]

Thanks for the feedback, benten2000.

Be aware. though, that you can run into cases where very tiny mouth (or other) movements don't get matched right. Often it can be solved by tweaking settings, such as the 'nt' parameter, but in some cases you have to resort to manual overrides. In my experience, most such match failures are not even perceptible when viewed at normal speed and size.

[B.F.]

Any progress about "tiny mouth" problem?

[Guest]

Any progress about "tiny mouth" problem? I haven't been working on this issue. Maybe a windowed combing analysis (reminiscent of Dup) could help.

[Leak]

I haven't been working on this issue. Maybe a windowed combing analysis (reminiscent of Dup) could help.
Is it just me, or is that exactly what tritical's TFM (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=699283#post699283) is using?

Works fine for me - can't remember the last time I've even had such artefacts with it...

np: Jah Wobble - Song Of Innocence (I Could Have Been A Contender (Disc 2))

[B.F.]

I using this now.
But on some video (usually anime) problem still exist.
I now find only two way to solve this problem.
1) BlendBob by Leak :) (no "tiny mouth" but quality not perfect)
2) Deinterlase area based by Gunnar Thalin(old and slow, but very good Vdub filter)
Can anybody at least make a Avisunth 2.5 YV12 port?

[MaXi_TK96]

Is it just me, or is that exactly what tritical's TFM (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=699283#post699283) is using?

Works fine for me - can't remember the last time I've even had such artefacts with it...


I actually hava had such problems with Scrapped Princess DVDs meaning I have had to manually correct some field matches in order to correct those "mouth problems". This being said I still prefer using TFM much because of this particular input/output feature.