Cant burn 16x on the fly?

[KevinD]

Hi!

One of my friends is burning 16x on the fly (~6min). I would like to do the same, so I arranged my NEC3520 and Asus E616P on each IDE-controller (seperate), but still it aint possible. I have tried different Verbatim 16x media as destination and also different DVD5 Verbatim as source. The same my friend uses.
But still it takes ~10 minutes to burn. Thats the same as 8x.

I was told that it was my Asus drive which was too slow, so I ordered a NEC 3540 hobing that would help, because my friend reads his discs from a NEC DVD-recorder and also burn them with another NEC DVD-recorder.

I have just received my new NEC3540 and patched the FW to the newest at both drives, but without luck. In matter of fact, the burning now last 1 minutes longer than before (now 11minutes).

What the hell is wrong with my drives/computer/dvds?

Both drives are in DMA if avaible and not in PIO mode. I have also tried to update Nero.

My system:
Asus P4G8X
P4 2,4Ghz
160gb Seagate Barracuda SATA
512mb PC2700

Thanks.

[hdi20]

Flash with a FW that removes riplock (dont forget unofficial firmware voids warranty).
http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/3540.html

[theReal]

Flash with a FW that removes riplock (dont forget unofficial firmware voids warranty). KevinD says the copying takes 11 minutes (instead of ~6 minutes for on the fly). I guess he already has full read speed. Btw. read speed is only locked for DVD Video afaik. Are we talking about video or data?

Have you activated "on the fly" in your burn program? You have to do that in Nero (and I think other programs as well because on the fly can be risky, not to mention 16x otf with DVDs...)

[blutach]

Don't spose it's worthwhile to warn you of the dangers of OTF burning?

Take your time and make write errors a thing of the past.

Regards

[sNNooPY]

16x ON THE FLY!? Forgive me for saying that is CRAZY & UNSAFE. I burn on the fly at 6x, from hard drive on 8x, anything above is not recommended if you ask me...

[Doom9]

Show me a DVD drive that can read dual layer discs at 16x.. they are all lower.

anything above is not recommended if you ask me...c't's tests showed that using the proper drive and media 12x is no problem at all, and even 16x is getting there now.

[sNNooPY]

c't's tests showed that using the proper drive and media 12x is no problem at all, and even 16x is getting there now.
source: Pioneer DVD-120, 16x (slave)
destination: Pioneer DVR-108D (master)

so you're telling me I can burn@12x on the fly?

[KevinD]

Well, I dont know if the speed is "real" 16x but its possible to choose from Nero and for my friend the job only last 6minutes.
I think its my computer which is too old, so I continue burning 8x on the fly from media like Verbatim. Then there are no problems at all, but if I try a crappy cheap disc, then it fails, but otherwise 8x on the fly and 16x from harddisc gives no problems at all.

The last thing, its video I try to burn. Not data.

But thanks for your input.

[sNNooPY]

Well, I dont know if the speed is "real" 16x but its possible to choose from Nero and for my friend the job only last 6minutes.
It's not 16x the whole time of the recording process. Like every speed, it's segmented as the recording progresses.
so I continue burning 8x on the fly from media like Verbatim. Then there are no problems at all, but if I try a crappy cheap disc, then it fails, but otherwise 8x on the fly and 16x from harddisc gives no problems at all.
same thing here...
The last thing, its video I try to burn. Not data.
I tried video,data&music. works well.