Pioneer models

[o770]

Does anybody happen to know if there is any hardware difference between the models DV-575A and DV-588A-s? What are the differences?
I know both share the same chipset (Mediatek 1389EE) but Pioneer sells each one in different countries.

There is the model DV-686A too and I'd appreciate if anybody could compare it to the 588. My main interest though is about 575 vs 588, because I've been told already that the 686 is in fact the australian version of the 588.

The links below may help a little.
DV-575A (http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_detail.jsp?product_id=8549&taxonomy_id=62-84), DV-588A-s (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_15020669_236572701,00.html). And the manuals are these: 575 (http://www.service.pioneer-eur.com/peeservice/RegistrInstrMan.nsf/(CountDownloadinInstructionManuals3)?openagent&ID=42E6978E04AEA5C8C1256F340033210C&Attachment=VRB1332_DV-575A.pdf) and 578 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_11221/268906938DV588ASOperatingInstructions.pdf).
Thanks a lot.

[Nogs]

575 = 1389EE
585 = 1389EE

588 has dual layer DVD recordable support, 575 can read some dual layer recordables but its hit and miss

[freelock7]

Strange that new 2005 models don't have optical output.
Very bad choice from Pioneer engineering.
For exemple: the superb Pioneer 585 (a shame).

[o770]

Nogs,

are you certain the 588 uses the FE version of the chipset?
Because I was certain that the version was the EE (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers?chipset=MediaTek MT1389EE) mostly because of that link.

[o770]

Pls would anybody confirm that the chipset in the 588 is the FE? Or does anybody know instead that the chipset version actually is another?

[Nogs]

Sorry this is 585, is that the same as 588 ? its a new model in Europe, 588 is not listed on Pioneer UK site.

http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/pioneer_dv_585a.shtml

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well your link quite clearly shows that the DV-585A is fitted with an "FE" chip-set ;)


Cheers

[o770]

How does Videohelp gather that kind of information about the players? Are actually the users who say the chipset a player has inside?



Edit: in fact the users (reviewers) report what chipset they beleive the player has inside.

[lordyu]

Hi, SeeMoreฯ! I think you should have gone to Specsavers! :p

Just kidding. ;) I don't know German but I think the MT1389FE you saw on that page wasn't DV-585A's. :p

Here is what I understand (or what I think I understand).
DV-575A 2004, Europe, analog 5.1 output, DVD-Audio, SACD, MT1389EE
DV-470 2004, Europe, DV-575A's little brother, no analog 5.1 output, no DVD-Audio, no SACD, MT1389FE

DV-676A 2004, Australia & South-East Asia, same as DV-575A, no SCART output

DV-585A 2005, Europe, based-on DV-575A, analog 5.1 output, DVD-Audio, SACD, MT1389EE
DV-380 2005, Europe, DV-585A's little brother, no analog 5.1 output, no DVD-Audio, no SACD, MT1389FE
DV-2850 2005, Europe, same as DV-380, different looks

DV-588A 2005, USA & Canada, same as DV-585A, no SCART

DV-686A 2005, Australia & South-East Asia, same as DV-585A, no SCART
DV-383 2005, Australia & South-East Asia, same as DV-2850, no SCART
DV-585K 2005, Australia & South-East Asia, same as DV-2850, no SCART, with KaraokeThe hardware of the 2005 models is said to be a bit different from the 2004 models. Not the circuit or the parts on the PCB, but the drive. Things like gear wheels vs belts in the drive, better DVD+R DL support, etc. Also the DV-575A's dimmer is gone in DV-585A. Some say DV-575A is more solid than DV-585A. Probably due to cost-cutting in new models.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Bummer...

I wonder if someone kindly German speaker can clear this up for us?

This photo is named: "pioneer_dv_585a_inside_vergl_dv_380.jpg"

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/438/pioneerdv585ainsidevergldv3809.jpg


And this photo is named: "pioneer_dv_585a_inside_detail_1.jpg"

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4425/pioneerdv585ainsidedetail12bh.jpg


Which chip-set belongs to which player?

[o770]

I don't know if maybe somebody already tried to send Pioneer an e-mail to inquire about the chipset specifications. I did and Pioneer (USA) took quite a few days (6) to send me a reply.
Pioneer said that my "request was sent to Japan, because this is not a normal spec or Data given out to customers".

[Nogs]

Look at the photos above

Top one
http://www.areadvd.de/images/pioneer_dv_380_inside.jpg

One below
http://www.areadvd.de/images/pioneer_dv_585a_inside.jpg

On the 585 one you can see the extra 5.1 phono connections to confirm it is the 585 and not the 380 so these labels appear to be correct.

Notice on both the placement of the blue stickers on the circuit boards and then the two close ups below.

Going on this information

Top One
http://www.areadvd.de/images/pioneer_dv_585a_inside_vergl_dv_380.jpg
This is the 380

Lower one
http://www.areadvd.de/images/pioneer_dv_585a_inside_detail_1.jpg
This is the 585, you can just make out the extra 5.1 connections

Thus the 585 use the EE and the 380 the FE in the German models and I would assume the European models.

[SeeMoreDigital]

That's where I went wrong then....

I looked at the "pioneer_dv_585a_inside_vergl_dv_380.jpg" image and thought it refered to the DV-585A

All this has given me a headache!


Cheers