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TooNice
2nd August 2005, 17:32
I was wondering what tool is suitable to join two mpeg files together. I've seen a general file merging tool under the VOB tool section, but I am not sure if it would work well.

Actually, it would be conveninent if the tool can also join AVI, as I may need that too.

Thanks.
Prodater64
2nd August 2005, 18:09
I was wondering what tool is suitable to join two mpeg files together. I've seen a general file merging tool under the VOB tool section, but I am not sure if it would work well.

Actually, it would be conveninent if the tool can also join AVI, as I may need that too.

Thanks.

Do join mpeg files with tmpgenc, file, mpeg tools, cut and join tool.
Do join avi files with virtualdubmod. Open first file and append second avi to it, then put audio and video in direct stream copy and save it as a new avi file.
unskinnyboy
2nd August 2005, 18:13
:search:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=73137
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=73109
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=77512
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=85620
tigerman8u
3rd August 2005, 00:26
"Actually, it would be conveninent if the tool can also join AVI, as I may need that too."

filemerger wiil join avi's and mpeg's
TooNice
15th November 2005, 21:49
Sorry for the bump, but I guess it is better for me to continue in this thread.

First of all, tmpgenc worked, thanks for that.
But I am having some difficulty with avi and VirtualDubMod. I am running the latest version, and it doesn't have the Audio Menu next to the Video Menu. Having looked around, I got as far as this: http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/9501/virtualdubmod5vi.th.png (http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=virtualdubmod5vi.png)
But when I save as avi, I am still missing the audio in the new file.
numbaz
16th November 2005, 02:18
Use Nandub. In the Menu, File=>Append AVI Segment.
But first, make sure Video and Audio are set to direct stream copy.
Nandub covers upto 2 audio streams, I believe..
(Am I right??)
If you have 3 or more streams you could mux it in later.
If I'm wrong, let me know. --;
video_magic
16th November 2005, 02:45
In addition to Virtualdub, Virtualdubmod & Nandub, here are links to
three other free/donationware programs that you should find very useful TooNice. Actually, the people that make them sometimes still post on Doom9 forums I think

Verge http://www.xverg.com/support.html

Avi- Mux Gui http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/Video-Zeug/AVIMux%20GUI/

AviDemux http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
TooNice
16th November 2005, 04:04
Thanks for the replies.

Nandub couldn't open the file, nor could Verge and Avi-Mux. I haven't tried AviDemux yet.

However, I've made some prograss with VirtualDubMod, though it is a rather confusing one.

If I save as an Avi file, the audio track is for some reason not saved (even though I followed the exact same step). Throughout the whole process, it stays at 0 byte.

If I save as either MKV or OGG, then everything is fine. I haven't checked whether the file is re-encoded though (even though I have picked the direct stream copy option).

The other thing I noticed is that the Ogg file is similar in file size as the two original Avi added together (both 996MB - though, it is not identical once you look into the KBs). The MKV on the other hand is 7MB smaller (989MB). Does anyone know why that might be?
CWR03
16th November 2005, 04:39
As it says in your stream information, you're creating an AVI with Vorbis audio. Try transcoding that to MP3 first, then mux it with VirtualDubMod. It should work then.

MKV is more efficient than AVI for storing, which is why the file is a bit smaller.
Abond
16th November 2005, 09:50
Yeah, AFAIK VDMod cannot remux ogg in avi. So you must transcode the audio.
TooNice
18th November 2005, 00:04
Ah, that would make sense.

So if I want to maintain the quality, should I just use MKV? Would that be "lossless" (obviously the source is already compressed, but would I avoid further degradation by going MKV?).
BaronVlad
20th November 2005, 16:59
Ah, that would make sense.

So if I want to maintain the quality, should I just use MKV? Would that be "lossless" (obviously the source is already compressed, but would I avoid further degradation by going MKV?).

mkv is only the container for audio and video. No conversion of video or audio needed, when you mux it to mkv.

But no Standalone DVD Player will play mkvs, if you want to have it played on certain Divx Players, you should reencode the audio to cbr mp3.

And please NEVER EVER try to use ogg vorbis in avi container ! It doesnt work properly !