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IRMA1024
1st August 2005, 00:53
why x264 or maybe h.264 generally don't have GMC feature?

Sirber
1st August 2005, 01:02
maybe h264 doesn't need it to kick ass :D

Doom9
1st August 2005, 01:39
it's not part of the specs. Considering how little GMC brought to the table in MPEG-4 v2, that's not surprising, really.

IRMA1024
1st August 2005, 04:31
MPEG4-v2 ??

i never heard it? what is it?

chilledoutuk
1st August 2005, 04:44
he's refering to MPEG4 ASP which is arguably the second stage of the mpeg-4 standard.

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IRMA1024
1st August 2005, 06:14
then MPEG-4 ASP has GMC but MPEG-4 AVC don't have ?

bond
1st August 2005, 08:22
then MPEG-4 ASP has GMC but MPEG-4 AVC don't have ?exactly

afaik avc uses some other technologies which can indirectly reproduce the effect gmc had in asp.

sysKin
1st August 2005, 09:55
he's refering to MPEG4 ASP which is arguably the second stage of the mpeg-4 standard.Nono, it's second PART of mpeg-4 standard. First part is mp4 container ("systems"), second is video ("video coding"), third is audio ("advanced audio coding", AAC), .... tenth is "advanced video coding", AVC).

afaik avc uses some other technologies which can indirectly reproduce the effect gmc had in asp.
Nothing comes to my mind, no - although with AVC's multi-reference coding, GMC *could* possibly be somehow useful. A bit. Perhaps. Maybe.

Not worth adding to the standard though...

Sharktooth
1st August 2005, 12:52
GMC adds more complexity to an already complex to decode stream. Also the GMC does not offer big advantages, expecially considering the AVC b-frames efficiency.

skal
1st August 2005, 17:41
Hello everybody,
i second sysKin here: nothing in MPEG4-AVC mimics GMC. And that's pretty fortunate ;)
-Skal