The Abyss - R1 - Runtime error "380"

[SpazzHH]

I tried backing up The Abyss-R1, NTSC yesterday(with RC3 and CCE 2.70), and on the bonus disc, RB kept freezing at the very end of the prepare phase, would lock up and could not complete. The only part that seemed to be lacking was the final bitrate computations. I eventually gave up and tried the "Encode phase anyway and at 98.5%, while extracting stills for VTS 9 segment 227 recieved "Runtime Error 380-invalid property value". Here is the log(Attachment uploaded):

P.S. If I persist and keep hitting the "Encode" button after switching to 3-click, I eventually will get "Runtime Error 9 - Subscript out of Range".

[borgraf]

I'll just confirm that my Abyss R1 disc 2 behaves the same way as yours. I tested with RC3 and 0.93.2 and it freezes right at the end of prepare.

I'm about to back up the movie itself, disc 1. Did you try it, if so how did it go? I did a test prepare on it with both normal (full disc) and "movie only" mode. The disc has 439 MB worth of menu but for some reason the "overall bitrate" was 400 bps lower in "movie only" mode.. :confused:

[SpazzHH]

@borgraf
I tried it with HC because of the low bitrate. Haven't played it back yet, but during "Rebuild", got the dreaded dropped frames message(seg 101 VOBID 46 CELLID 3).

[jdobbs]

I just happen to have that disc on my hard drive. I'll run it overnight and see what happens.

[jdobbs]

Ok I found and fixed this one. It was really an odd one. There are so many stills on that disc that the "Status" textbox got too large to hold all the "Extracting STILLS..." status lines. :scared:

[borgraf]

Yay that's a whole lot of stills.. another one bites the dust, nice work as always jdobbs :)

I ran a few test projects of disc 1. In "full disc" mode (no mode selected), removing only the 6 channel AC3 track, both my HC and CCE projects completed without problem. I did not get the error message with HC that you did SpazzHH.

I also had a project in "movie only" mode with CCE, with otherwise exactly the same settings including removing the 6 chan audio as above. This run was not entirely friction free. DVD-RB reported "Overall Bitrate : 1*887Kbs", which is lower than the CCE project above that included the menu (Overall Bitrate : 2*384Kbs). It came out undersized at 3.11 GB and the end of the log says this:

- Rebuilding seg 81 VOBID 51 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_51
- WARNING: VOB Count Old: 0 New: 34
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[07:33:49] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 11 minutes.
Looks like something funky is happening in movie mode :)

[jdobbs]

That warning is incorrect. It is a legacy warning left over from before "Movie Only" -- in Movie-Only a new IFO is generated from scratch, so the "old" VOB count is always zero.

[jptheripper]

any insight into why a movie only bitrate would be lower than a menu and movie bitrate?

[jdobbs]

No. Something else has to be going on there...

[borgraf]

Reading another thread made me try to open my new RC4 rebuilds (full disc minus 6 chan AC3) of Abyss disc 1 with DVDShrink. It fails to open with "Invalid DVD navigation structure" message. The original files open fine. I'm not saying this is an error of DVD-RB, in fact it's probably nothing. I'll just throw in a heads up in case you want to check it out :)

[SpazzHH]

Reading another thread made me try to open my new RC4 rebuilds (full disc minus 6 chan AC3) of Abyss disc 1 with DVDShrink. It fails to open with "Invalid DVD navigation structure" message. The original files open fine. I'm not saying this is an error of DVD-RB, in fact it's probably nothing. I'll just throw in a heads up in case you want to check it out :)
I got the same message last night. After RB finishes in file mode, I use MenuEdit to fix my Menu buttons, then turn it over to Shrink for the ISO creation. Anyway, I was doing Disc 1 when RC4 was released, and updated before I rebuilt, so I couldn't be sure where the error was at. I was just starting to redo the entire project, when I read your post. I didn't get that error message with Disc 2 did you?

[jdobbs]

It doesn't give any indicator as to what it means? That's weird. What does "invalid navigation structure" mean? I know IFOEdit's file check finds nothing wrong (I tested that)...

Why would you need to open the file with Shrink? Not that it matters, I'm just wondering.

[SpazzHH]

It doesn't give any indicator as to what it means?
No indication at all. It just says it's a critical error and it can't continue.
What does "invalid navigation structure" mean?
I was hoping You might know. :p
Why would you need to open the file with Shrink?
As I stated above, I do it with every project I do. I don't edit my menu buttons until after RB has had the files first. My TargetSectors are a little on the aggresive side( :rolleyes: ), so I shrink my menus while creating my ISO with Shrink.
P.S. BTW For what it's worth, the output was also 25 mb smaller than any project I've run in a long time. Not sure exactly why, but I'm going to run it again overnight, and take a closer look at things when I get home from work tomorrow afternoon(Yeah I know, the thought's kind of scary isn't it?).

[SpazzHH]

Whatever it is about the "DVD navagation structure" that Shrink doesn't like, it doesn't like it on Hide and Seek either. I just redid it with RC4 and got the same error message.

[jdobbs]

I'll look at it tomorrow... gotta be something there.

[borgraf]

I rarely ever open a DVD-RB backup in shrink, I have no reason to. I read something in a thread here and wanted to check something in shrink. So I just opened the first files on my HDD that came to mind.. and that happened to be the latest DVD-RB backup :)

Before I found the "right" (for me) targetsettings level, once in a while I had to shrink the menus a bit to make the backup fit to disc. but it has been a while since the last time

I didn't get that error message with Disc 2 did you?I put the disc 2 backup on hold after the error, and haven't gotten around to encoding it yet. Disc 1 was the first time I saw the error in shrink. But like I wrote above I rarely open backups in shrink so I don't know if it's common or one in a million.. probably the latter :)

[borgraf]

This ILVU stuff is really a bear.I borrowed that quote from another thread cause it looks like the bear had a little bite left in it :(

I sat down and watched the ABYSS (disc 1) backup and got as far as about 10:40 into the "special edition version" before my Sony player stopped dead (not froze). I verified it on a second RW disc. On the DVD it dies right at the end of the equivalent of V04000700004002.m2v . The DVD plays fine in WinDVD 6, and the "theatrical version" plays fine past that point in both software and hardware players.

I hope this helps you narrow it down :)

@SpazzHH

Have you played your backup in hardware yet?

[jdobbs]

I've done "The Abyss" Disc 1 and played it back on 4 different players with no issues...

[borgraf]

I ripped the files again using AnyDVD this time, and encoded with Procoder 2.. same thing.
I've done "The Abyss" Disc 1 and played it back on 4 different players with no issues...Well then it's good to be you, and I need to get rid of this picky Sony :(

[SpazzHH]

I've done "The Abyss" Disc 1 and played it back on 4 different players with no issues...
I don't doubt that for a second. The files seem to play fine in IFO edit too. I also know you have way more than enough to do without #%$@* like this popping up. It's by no means at all a suggestion that it's something wrong with RB. It's just that it means that Shrink is another tool that inconveniently can't be used(old habits die hard) to process menus.
And it's a major curiousity as to why, when the originals open O.K., and it seems to happen only with ILVU discs, but not all(no problem with The Abyss, Disc 2).:confused:

[jdobbs]

I'm sure the "Shrink" thing is something small. I'll fix it and get out an interim version.

[SpazzHH]

I'm sure the "Shrink" thing is something small. I'll fix it and get out an interim version.
Bless you. I wish I understood more of this stuff, then I might be able to help find some answers.