trim().telecide() - is it ok? And missing frame

[MetalPhreak]

Hi, this is my first post here.
I was just wondering - I encode a lot of anime and sometimes I have trouble
finding a setting for telecide() that works well for the entire clip. Especially like mouths or other small areas that aren't being deinterlaced/ivtc'd and when I set vthresh low enough for this to be fixed too many good frames are being deinterlaced. I just wanted to know if there is any reason why I shouldn't have a script that looks like:

part1 = trim(blah,blah).telecide()
part2 = trim(blah,blah).telecide()
return part1+part2

Just asking since telecide() reports "out of pattern" for the first few frames of each part.
Also sometimes when encoding to Xvid(v1.1 beta2) at the end the status window reports 1 frame less than the actual clip lenth in vdubmod. Is this just the Xvid status window not refreshing or is this something with
telecide().decimate() decimating the clip differently on each pass?

[Mug Funky]

the 1 frame difference is kinda complicated... virtualdub seems to just do as it feels sometimes and report how ever many frames it wants to. the other day i re-encoded a segment from an anime (our tape was glitchy at 1 spot, so it needed to be patched up using photoshop and the US DVD), and my re-encoded segment was apparently 1 frame longer than the exported, bad segment.

but on dumping it into the main feature, it was exactly the right length, and nothing was out of sync. weird, huh?

add to that the difficulties with xvid b-frames and VfW, and you're got some pretty serious uncertainties with framecount. my advice is to just follow your heart (that's what i do) :)

as far as the telecide thing, i believe there's a better way to handle it - telecide has manual overrides, meaning you don't need to trim and rejoin, but can just tell telecide where the pattern changes and it'll handle it.

i'm in PAL land, so i don't know these manual override methods very well - i just know it can be done.

try search for "YATTA"

[MetalPhreak]

Thanks for the info and clearing up that frame issue for me.
I tried YATTA - slow and tedious but works very well.
:thanks: