Scenaid 1.7.0.6 (with VIP mode)

[D3s7]

Scenaid 1.7 has now been released with the following:

Fix:
Error 13 in GenerateTrack
Fix causing redundant names in the Scenarist Script
Fix causing Error 6 in ProcessAssets
Error 5 in BuildChapterLayout corrected

Additons:
VIP Mode (A donation of $15.00 or more will get you added to the VIP list - or if you feel you in the past have added to the development of Scenaid, feel free to email me and if I agree you will be added)

Muxman Script generation (VIP) - full support for muxman 15 or later
Muxman SUP support (VIP) - creation of .SUP files from the original subtitles allowing for exact reproduction of subtitles
Muxman Automation (VIP) - full automation now functions in Muxman mode including IFOUpdate routines (BatchIfoUpdate is no longer required) and Sector check

Changes:
Ability to force dummy of audio in a vip demux has been improved
Audio dummy checks have been improved which should avoid issues with odd named files/directories
IFO Parsing routine updated to allow for scripting of pre/post commands even in dummy PGC's (no PG's)
IFO Parsing routine updated to allow for poorly authored IFO's with improper information in the tables


More changes to come

current VIP users, your VIP code will be coming shortly

[Darklistener]

Hi
Nice new release :)
Is BatchIfoUpdate also not required if I use Scenarist?

[Zeul]

Congrats on another nice release

[D3s7]

BatchIfoUPdate is still required if you use Scenarist..

I'll probably add that feature to the Scenarist side as well but it will need more options to

[StoneRoses]

Does scenaid.com website down?

I can't download the latest version, does it have any mirror?

[jel]

its working for me ...
try http://www.sceneaid.com/index.php
and if you still have no luck, pm me your email address and i will send you a copy
cheers
j

[buzzqw]

At time of this post the site is UP

BHH

[StoneRoses]

So, it looks like my ISP screw things up.
Thanks.

[D3s7]

v 1.7.0.1 (exe only) has been posted the website which resolves the following:

* Updated framecounter.exe to allow for more accurate counting of no-cce files
* Correction in the Scenarist .SCP for pre/post/cell naming
* Removal of support for BatchEncodeM2V (per request from the author - please use latest BatchCCEWS alpha/beta instead)
* Correction in the Scenaid-ccedata.txt file to accuratly reflect angle assets to BatchCCEWS

[Pike007]

How am I suppose to give you guys a decent review of any problems when you keep updating your programs? :D

Damn, have to start all over again... :)

[D3s7]

we can leave them broke if you'd prefer :)

[Tobii]

Congratulations, nice work :)


But I have noticed the following...


ScenAid 1.7.0.0 (scenaid - ccedata.txt)

;Version 1.0.1.6
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__02_P01.I-TFF.16~9_1.AVS,0,9576,3000,0,4,30,16,0,79245,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,2976,14916,33364,48316,61792
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__04_P01.I-TFF.16~9_1.AVS,0,9160,3141,0,4,30,16,0,140109,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,4299,10916,17770,24374,30491,35396,42551,45862,46998,53053,57311,62441,69037,75895,79622,86534,94116,99493,105257,110741,115341,123047,126925,128953
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__05_P01.I-TFF.4~3_1.AVS,0,9576,3000,0,4,30,16,0,19471,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__06_P01.I-TFF.4~3_1.AVS,0,9576,3000,0,4,30,16,0,2764,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__07_V001.I-TFF.4~3_1.AVS,0,9352,3000,0,4,30,16,0,7430,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,3808,5663

ScenAid 1.7.0.1 (scenaid - ccedata.txt)

;Version 1.0.1.6
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__02_P01.I-TFF.16~9_1.AVS,0,-224,3000,0,4,30,16,0,79245,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,2976,14916,33364,48316,61792
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__04_P01.I-TFF.16~9_1.AVS,0,-640,3141,0,4,30,16,0,140109,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,4299,10916,17770,24374,30491,35396,42551,45862,46998,53053,57311,62441,69037,75895,79622,86534,94116,99493,105257,110741,115341,123047,126925,128953
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__05_P01.I-TFF.4~3_1.AVS,0,-224,3000,0,4,30,16,0,19471,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__06_P01.I-TFF.4~3_1.AVS,0,-224,3000,0,4,30,16,0,2764,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0
0,F:\DoItFast4U_Output\Scenaid\NewD2V\VTS__07_V001.I-TFF.4~3_1.AVS,0,-448,3000,0,4,30,16,0,7430,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,0,3808,5663

I have for comparison purposes used a couple of other DVDs once again.
No correct scenaid - ccedata.txt is generated with the version 1.7.0.1.

Can you confirm it?

[Zeul]

Looks like the figure being passed is the reduction factor from the max size (9800)
Sorry D3s7, never noticed that in my test

[Pike007]

I'm getting the same results as Tobii also.

[D3s7]

Tobii, Pike
chck your mailbox.. new build to test.. please let me know if it fixes it so I can upload

Thanks

[Pike007]

In my case, the max bitrate is fixed now.

[Tobii]

1) I can confirm it, it is fixed now.

2) You can upload.

3) Thanks!

[D3s7]

Thanks guys

1.7.0.2 is now on the website

[Pike007]

Okay, some more testing...

I have these 3 audio tracks in a Vobid Demux:

1)English-80
2)French-81
3)English-82

When I uncheck the 2nd track (french) in DIFU, and import this into Scenaid (1.7.0.2), it apparently imports track 1 properly, leaves 1 line empty, and then imports the 3rd audio track (This is when I'm checking the audio tracks preview window right under the video preview area). This only happened when I did a Vobid Demux using DIFU 1.4.7.0

A "Dummy" audio track is not being created when it is compiled in either Scenarist or Muxman. In this case, the audio is imported into scenarist as:

1)English-80
2)English-82

I tried 2 different movies with Vobid Demux and this occured for both. I tried a pgc demux on one of these movies (just for a test) and it did insert a "Dummy" audio track for the french stream 81. Maybe someone else could do a vobid demux to verify this as well?

I have some questions as well which I hope someone could answer:

-In the Audio options area under Add Silence to Vobid demux and pgc demux, I should always leave these checked, right? Is there any time they should not be checked?

-I use DIFU 1.4.7.0 with Dvd2avidg and I wanted to know if Scenaid's DgIndex should be used instead.

-I've been having a problem with "King Arthur" at the Muxman stage during a pgc Demux. I would keep getting an error "Video_TS.ifo could not be... error during mux" or something similar on a pgc demux. When I did a Vobid demux and using Muxman again, it worked ok. I'm guessing Muxman failed because I didn't choose the right demux. Is this a possible scenario?

I'm not sure how to copy and paste the ifo in ifoedit otherwise I'd post it as sometimes I have a hard time telling if a DVD should be Vobid or pgc demux. It would be nice if this was somehow automatic (I guess this would be a DIFU thing and the whole process may not be possible at all)

Thanks D3s7

[D3s7]

by default, there is no audio "dummied" in a vobid demux.. this is by design as you could get errors (with scenarist at least) if you try... there is an option to "force" audio dummy in a vobid demux under the "Audio options"

to answer your other questions:

1) That option isn't needed really at all for PGC demux (i've only saw it one time where it was) and isn't needed for muxman at all... this is really a scenarist only thing

2) DGIndex is actually just a newer version of DVD2AVI (dg) which more accuratly decodes the frames and can result in a more accurate frame count initially - if the movie has angles or is demuxed by vobid, i recommend it

3) Doubtful that demux type was the issue... if you run into that problemk, it means muxman failed for some reason.. in which case send me the .mxp file and the muxman.log which should be in the Scenaid directory under your demux directory

[jel]

okay, well ... i am sure d3s7 will chime in with anything i have missed (or gotten wrong for that matter :D)

generally, you cannot dummy audio for a vobid demux as as it prevents seamless connections between vobids.
there is an option in scenaid to do this but to be honest i never asked d3s7 exactly what this function does .. :rolleyes:
anyway, from what i can tell, the muxman approach is what i have used in the past to remove audio streams from a vobid demux, modifying the .ifos after the update step to assign the audio streams correctly.

'add silence ...' to vobid demux, imo, should always be checked, as it allows seamless connections between vobids ... adding silence to pgc demux is not usually necessary but apart from th eadditional time taken to perform this step, it certainly wouldnt cause any harm ...

personally i would always use DGIndex, particularly with vobid demux as it fixes many issues concerned with frame loss etc.

dif4u *should* always select vobid demux WHEN required.

as for posting the .ifo, i explain how here:
link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=689833#post689833)

hth
j

edit:/ damn dest ... you type too fast :)

[LeXXuz]

So, it looks like my ISP screw things up.
Thanks.

Same problem here. Can somebody post the ip of www.scenaid.com please ?

[D3s7]

my hoster just called and mentioned the box was down this morning.. should be back up now

[LeXXuz]

my hoster just called and mentioned the box was down this morning.. should be back up now

Yeah. Now it works. :)

[Pike007]

@ D3s7 and jel

:thanks: for the replies, that really helps!

edit: D3s7, I just sent you the Muxman log and .mxp files as I'm still getting that error. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks

[onebyside]

Procedure Name: FindBitrates
Module Name: Bitrates

Error Number: 6
Error Description: Overflow
Error Source: ScenAid
Error Line: 111
Call Stack:



seeing this error

[jlobee]

I was wondering if you would include the sceniad.chm file in future releases which describe some of the options, because currently theres a start menu link for ScenAid Help File, but the file itself doesnt exist. I'm using 1.7.0.2.

[Oruku Saki]

Using MuxMan 1.5i or 1.6ph in ScenAid 1.7.0.2 with options:

MuxMan
Use SUP files
MuxMan automation
Auto update IFO / move menu files

Causes the resulting DVD size to not be dividable by 2048 ... Nero throws a warning and the DVD isnt recognized by my player.

When turning off the Auto update IFO / move menu files option, and using BatchIFOUpdate instead, the resulting file size is ok, no warning from Nero, and the DVD plays fine

[D3s7]

i need to see the ifo's then... the scenaid updated ones, original ones and the batchupdated ones

[Pike007]

I've also had problems with the burned DVD playing on my system. The DVD plays fine with ifoedit or powerdvd on my computer without any problems but as soon as I put it in my standalone player, it would freeze at the beginning or just not play. I would get an error stating "This disc cannot be played, please check the disc".

After reading Oruku Saki's post :) I tried disabling the "auto update IFO" under muxman and did it manually with Batchifoupdate. The DVD now plays on my standalone.

Before this test I tried the same assets from the DVD with Muxman and Scenarist and Muxman method would not produce a working DVD whereas Scenarist did. This makes sense as "auto update ifo" is not used with Scenarist. I never thought of disabling the "autoupdate ifo" and manually using batchifoupdate. I've actually tried quite a few DVD's and none of them would play on my standalone but played fine on my computer :confused: . I never noticed a post about a non-playable DVD, so I've been racking my brain re-testing all combinations or different movies as I figured there must be something wrong with my files. I will test some more without auto update ifo on. I think this is something you should look at D3s7 as it fixed my problem.

D3s7, I sent some files to you last week about Muxman not muxing any files on one DVD and I'm not sure you received them. Please let me know if you didn't get them. Thanks

[D3s7]

Pike : don't think i did get them... mail was on the fritz here last week a bit (sorry)

anyone who'se having problems w/ the auto muxman update routine, I need to see the ifo's from the autoupdate as well as batchifoupdates (and the original which would be the .bak from batchifo or in the Scenaid/IFOBak dir from automated)

[Pike007]

D3s7, I will send all the files later on today. (gotta do the "working for a living" thing :rolleyes: )

Thanks

[Pike007]

Just sent the files to you D3s7. Let me know if you didn't receive them.

[Pike007]

I'm testing the new build from scratch and will let you know how it went

[D3s7]

1.7.4 has been released.. so sum up changes... here is the changes since 1.7.0

1.7.0.1
Fix / Change
Updated framecounter.exe to allow for more accurate counting of no-cce files
Correction in the Scenarist .SCP for pre/post/cell naming
Removal of support for BatchEncodeM2V (per request from the author - please use latest BatchCCEWS alpha/beta instead)
Correction in the Scenaid-ccedata.txt file to accuratly reflect angle assets to BatchCCEWS
1.7.0.2
Fix
Adjusted Scene allocation routines to allow for VOBID/CELLID reuse in same PGC
Corrected Bitrate max settings in CCEData generation
1.7.0.3
Fix
Correction to the Scenarist Sub assignments
1.7.0.4
Fix
Fix in IFO update route causing none 2048 sector sizes (and playback issues on standalones)

[Tobii]

Thanks for the new release.

I don't dare to ask already any more... but I have seen an error message in scenaid if the muxman script is prepared.


** Couldn't find proper muxman command for Commands : JumpVTS_PTT ptt_1 @ vts_ttn_11
** Couldn't find proper muxman command for Commands : JumpVTS_PTT ptt_1 @ vts_ttn_10


I have looked at the ScenAid.log and something is mixed up, if I compare it with the original commands.

If you have a little time...would you like to look at the relevant files?

[D3s7]

Yep... if I could get the IFO and muxman.mxp and scenaid.log I can see what's going on

[Tobii]

I always get a message of her provider...the mail cannot be delivered. :(
Can I append it here? Or do you still have a second mail address?

[D3s7]

I need to fix that... it's just forwarding to gmail.. i got the message though so we're set.. I'll look at those files when I get a second...

EDIT:
Ok... think i found the problem.. check your mail for new build to test
Let me know how it works

[Pike007]

D3s7,
I've tried 3 different DVD's (all in a row) and all 3 show the "shifted menu buttons" for my menus. I'm using Muxman 0.16 ph. I noticed that these downloads were taken out of the downloads section at mpucoder's site. I will try the same movie again with latest 0.15 version.

Is version 15 the most stable and should this be used (even if a ver 16 is available)?

[D3s7]

latest 15 is what's been tested... i really haven't tried the 16 builds..

If your bored and want to test (hint hint) - try not using .sup - instead use the sst/bmp's

[Pike007]

ok,
can-do :D

[Pike007]

D3s7, i just sent some files for you to check out.
Thanks

[jlobee]

Is there anyway to to tell scenaid 1.7.0.4 which assets to calcualte as MAIN and which as EXTRA.

There is a drop down main, but it does not allow you to set certain assets as MAIN or EXTRA, like in DIF4U.

And also does scenaid just use the biggest asset as the MAIN and the rest as EXTRA?


Thanks

[jel]

at present, scenaid simply selects the largest asset as the main.

if you manually select an asset as a main, all other assets will default to extras.

so, no at this time, you cannot use scenaid to select multiple mains for bitrate calcs, although i believe d3s7 is planning to implement this.

[D3s7]

1.7.5 has been posted
this build corrects an error in the VIP Ifoupdate routine which copied VIDEO properties into the MENU tables

(more then likely the "shifted" menu issue

[MadmanZ]

Great release m8... will try this babe out first thing tomorrow... last release worked quite nice for me although... might have been lucky, but.. hehe.. ;)

[Pike007]

New build (1.7.0.5) has corrected my issue with "shifted menu buttons".
Thanks, D3s7

@MadmanZ

Whoa!
Almost 4 years before your first post!, now that's just plain amazing! :)

[MadmanZ]

@Pike007

Yeah, have been a bit quite i guess.. but the lack of an internet connection
has also contributed to the lack of written text ;)
Well now I'm back on track.. time to get busy trying out software etc.

[influenza]

Almost 4 years before your first post!, now that's just plain amazing!

Hehe you are aware thjat the waiting period is only a couple of days, are you?
:D