Another stupid one

[apfraats]

Why is DVD-REBUILDER VTS orientated and not TITLE orientated.

Compare this to DVDSCHRINK. It handles things at TITLE level.

This is really easy, but DVD-REBUILDER takes VTS into account as a whole.

If a VTS contains more titles what next ????

Especially Episodic DVD's that had 4 titles (4 episodes) in a VTS ?

With Schrink you could select the episodic titles and blank them out with something like 'USE DISC B' or something like that.

Thx

Antoine Raats

[jptheripper]

dammit

vts stands for video title set.

and you can blank individual episodes, the video segment editor works on the cell (chapter) level. Shrink cant do that. SO you can keep the menu, every epsiode, and blank the credits. Do you even try these things before you ask, or do a search?

[aaron10]

apfraats,

Don't start your rants and insipid diatribes again. Moreover, quit comparing DVD-RB to DVD Shrink. They're different animals and do things differently, which is completely understandable. What sense would there be for jdobbs to replicate DVD Shrink. If you're so enamored with DVD Shrink (and it is an excellent piece of programming), why not use it and be satisfied.

Additionally, your question has been answered before, although not within the context of DVD Shrink. Try searching...

[winny]

Antoine, do you have anything constructive to say about dvd rebuilder?

I can't help wonder if you hang around here in the hope of winding people up with the not-at-all-convincing "dvdshrink is better because..."

I used to love using shrink, but over time I've learned it's quality cannot compare to using dvd rebuilder with a decent encoder.

Seriously mate, give it a rest will you? It's becoming a bid tedious.

[winny]

Have I spoken too soon? I see another post where you're asking genuine questions about 1.00rc1, so you're now a commited rebuilder fan? Welcome to the jdobbs appreciation society!

This is great news, and I look forward to your future contributions to the forum.

Best wishes. :)

[jdobbs]

Why is DVD-REBUILDER VTS orientated and not TITLE orientated.

Compare this to DVDSCHRINK. It handles things at TITLE level.

This is really easy, but DVD-REBUILDER takes VTS into account as a whole.

If a VTS contains more titles what next ????

Especially Episodic DVD's that had 4 titles (4 episodes) in a VTS ?

With Schrink you could select the episodic titles and blank them out with something like 'USE DISC B' or something like that.

Thx

Antoine RaatsWith DVD-RB you can work at a much lower level than title. You can get all the way down to the individual cell. All titles are made of chapters, all chapters are made of one or more cells. Rebuilder organizes itself around the way DVD's are actually constructed rather than the way they are presented.

[Edit] So I went back to read my response -- and realized I pretty much just repeated what jptheripper said -- that's twice that I've done that today. Apparently we think alike -- only he does it quicker.

[jptheripper]

wow what a complement :)

[apfraats]

For all people falling over me, I''m not COMPARING SCHRINK to REBUILDER, because I already know DVD-REBUILDER gives better results, I even am convinced about that.

My question are not about COMPLAINING about DVD-REVUILDER, I even donated !!! And I'm sure many of you didn't.....

But the point here is I used DVDSCHRINK a long time and I can turn it upside down.

So it's logical for me to ask questions about how to do these things in DVD-REBUILDER, it's not critism.

Nowhere I said DVDSHRINK is better. I'm only trying to use DVD-REBUILDER to it's extent.

So if anybody has a problem (even the moderator has ??) QUOTE ME on where I say DVDSHRINK is better.

Just compairing them to get un understanding of DVD-rebuilder

So if I mention Schrink it is as a reference only. Many of us started with SHRINK.

[apfraats]

Have I spoken too soon? I see another post where you're asking genuine questions about 1.00rc1, so you're now a commited rebuilder fan? Welcome to the jdobbs appreciation society!

This is great news, and I look forward to your future contributions to the forum.

Best wishes. :)


READ BEFORE COMMENTING !!!

I never and nowhere say DVDSHRINK is better.
I'm only a DVDSHRINK user and have to find out how things are done in DVD-REVUILDER. And yes, I donated, did you ??

See just see me as a beginner on the DVD-REBUILDER tournament.
I only use DVDSHRINK as a reference, cause I know it upside down and would like to now how things are done in DVD-rebuilder.

So it's for reference only.

[apfraats]

For all people reacting in the wrong way.

'Another stupid one' was referring to my question, cause I already thought it was one.

If you read my other post it is called 'Stupid question'.

So people, read things in context.

'Another stupid one' was not a reference to DVD-rebuilder.

:thanks:

[Rockas]

Ok... I'm broking my promisse but seems like your attitude as changed.

Nobody (at least I didn't) said that you said the DVD Shrink is better... and I don't believe that anyone here is making a war against Shrink either.

When I said to you what I said I was refering my self to your lack of courtesy and to your insulting atitude.

Read this carefully:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96764&page=5

As you can see... there are ways of refering DVD Shrink without insulting people and without being insulted ;)

believe me... if you take your posts in a contructive way, I'll be the first one to say: WELCOME!

[jdobbs]

DVD Shrink is an excellent program written by an excellent programmer. But it is a transcoder. That makes a lot of things easier and faster, because you never actually have to deal with the true video, and the output is guaranteed to be exact same format as the input (most of it doesn't change in transcoding).

DVD Rebuilder is an entirely different concept. It actually reauthors the entire DVD using the original as it's template. They are two different programs aimed at two different audiences. Rebuilder is for the videophile and is concentrated on quality, it's a niche group. Shrink is aimed at more at the mainstream -- as are the other transcoders. Fast but limited as the the level of quality they can produce by the inherent nature of within-the-compressed-domain transcoding.

For what it does and the audience it is intended --- Shrink does it damn good.

But me, personally... I didn't buy a high-end DVD Player, a 50" Sony LCD monitor, and a home theater system with the intention of feeding it poor quality input. Hell, I could do that with a VHS recorder and a 19" portable.

[winny]

apfraats, i did read your post and initially thought it was another flame towards rebuilder. my mistake.

i'm sure you never intended it to be, that's why i offered an olive branch after noticing you had contributed and were as committed as the rest of us to getting the most out of a very fine program.

i understand dvdshrink is your point of reference, so it now seems sensible for you to be comparing the two. your first few posts on the forum were seen by many to be blunt, and i'm being generious here :), but it's easy for people to read things the wrong way.

so just relax, and enjoy the high quality backups of your favourite films.

Best wishes.

[apfraats]

Ok, now I get the point.

I was not meaning to be 'insulting' in some way, but indeed maybe my way of expression could be improved. English is not my mothers languages so i have the impuls to just write short facts, not meaning to be 'insulting'.

Just here on the forum to learn, cause I have a lot of learning to do.

Sorry if people take it the wrong way, after a while I'll do better.

But for me it's just difficult to make long sentences and saying things in the way I want, so I'm used to leaving things out and just making some statements that should get to the point. Maybe I'll take kind of short turn doing that, sorry.

[Wheelie4]

DVD Shrink is an excellent program written by an excellent programmer. But it is a transcoder. That makes a lot of things easier and faster, because you never actually have to deal with the true video, and the output is guaranteed to be exact same format as the input (most of it doesn't change in transcoding).

DVD Rebuilder is an entirely different concept. It actually reauthors the entire DVD using the original as it's template. They are two different programs aimed at two different audiences. Rebuilder is for the videophile and is concentrated on quality, it's a niche group. Shrink is aimed at more at the mainstream -- as are the other transcoders. Fast but limited as the the level of quality they can produce by the inherent nature of within-the-compressed-domain transcoding.

For what it does and the audience it is intended --- Shrink does it damn good.

But me, personally... I didn't buy a high-end DVD Player, a 50" Sony LCD monitor, and a home theater system with the intention of feeding it poor quality input. Hell, I could do that with a VHS recorder and a 19" portable.

I agree totally. I didn't buy highend gear and a 57 inch TV to watch less than the best video quality possible. Up to now I've refused to compress any DVD video. I've used DVDShrink, VobBlanker, PgcEdit and DvdRemakePro (my favorite) to remove whatever necessary to keep DD5.1 and main movie without compression. But recently I've come across a couple dvd's that after keeping only the movie and cutting the opening and ending credits left the movie still too large to fit a single DVDR. So just recently I donated and got DVD-RBPro to start learning how too use it. I figure if I'm gonna have to compress, I want to do it right. And even though my burner can burn +/-R DL disks, untill DL prices drop I'm sticking with single layers. Thx for DVD-RB jdobbs. :)

apfraats,

Don't feel bad. I'm in the same position as you. Learning DVD-RB's abilities and associating it's layout to the programs I'm more familiar with. Thankfully DVD-RB is much simpler to figure out than PgcEdit. ;)

[apfraats]

And then you get the problem of layer breaks and the BIG BIG compatability issues involved in Dl-burning.

I did buy a few.

Only my sony player was playing them kind if right.

All my other players made a mess of it.

DL is no option as far as it is still not compatable enough...

[Wheelie4]

And then you get the problem of layer breaks and the BIG BIG compatability issues involved in Dl-burning.

I did buy a few.

Only my sony player was playing them kind if right.

All my other players made a mess of it.

DL is no option as far as it is still not compatable enough...

Apparently rolz has made a big step in DL burning in the latest PgcEdit 0.6.0 release. But that discusion is for another forum section. :)