16:9 movie is 4:3 after dvd-rb pro process

[DaSilva]

Hya,

I'm having a small problem with DVD-RB.
When I process the movie Hitch (16:9) with rebuilder the result gets a 4:3 flag in the .ifo
I used the Movie Only and No Compression options.
Then I tried correcting this in the .ifo with Ifoedit (double clicked the Video part of Title Set Attributes then set 16:9 instead of 4:3)
Now when I play the movie the aspect ratio is correct but my subs son't work anymore :(
This problem occurs on Wicker Park to.
I tried v1.00RC1 Pro and the v0.93.2 Pro but both have the same outcome.

Could anyone can tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.

[jdobbs]

I just did Hitch (NTSC, R1) a couple of days ago with no problems. Any preprocessing?

[DaSilva]

Thanks for the quick reply.
Well I "borrowed" a copy of a friend of mine so I don't know about preprocessing.
It's PAL R2 here.
I just wanted to get rid of menu's and unwanted subs etc.

[k2002rahmani]

I did Hitch as well with no problems.

[nyt]

I get the same issue with most PAL R2 I do. Recognized as 16:9 titles by DVD-RB but ifos end up set at 4:3.

[jdobbs]

:sly: There's a lot of people doing PAL without problems ... something else is involved here.


DVD-RB NEVER CHANGES THAT VALUE from 16:9 to 4:3 -- it only does it in the other direction (when set for converting 4:3 to 16:9). If it is being changed from the setting on the original DVD, it ain't DVD-RB doing it.

[nyt]

Could be the mpeg stream incorrectly set to 4:3? The same issue that happened in the other direction.. Something is certain, in one-click mode/movie-only, the main movie is seen as 16:9 but output ifos are 4:3.

[jdobbs]

If the stream was set to 4:3, DVD-RB would encode it at 4:3 -- but it still wouldn't change the IFO to 4:3. If it is changing -- it isn't DVD-RB doing it.

[nyt]

Eh! I'm sure you know your code, but I'm 101% confident it _is_ DVD-RB doing it. I have an input dir, an output dir, and DVD-RB in one-click mode. Now if you can tell me what other external program would modify the ifos without my knowledge..
Unless my computer is infected by a new worm that like to distort things ;)

Edit: I will send you IFOs before/after next time I hit this issue.

[jdobbs]

The only other possibility would be if you are using Movie-Only mode -- in which DVD-RB creates a new IFO.

[nyt]

Yup, that's what the original poster and I use (cf previous posts), movie only.

[jdobbs]

Hmm.. missed that in the first post.... that means the stream is marked as 4:3 but is played back as 16:9 --> bad authoring. I wonder if it was done with SpruceUp? It doesn't accept 16:9, so the IFO has to be manually changed to play it back...

If you change the IFO and want the subs to work, you have to move the subpicture's stream id in the IFO's PGC description from 4:3 to wide and letterbox as well.

I guess I could put a "force 16:9 in movie only" option... but (and I emphasize) I shouldn't have to if the original was authored correctly.


[added note] -- if you manually change it with IFOEDIT, don't forget to also click the "Automatic Letterbox" checkbox.