Full "DivX Media Format" playback/support in stand-alone players

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hello DivX,

It would seem people are experimenting using "DivX Converter" to create "DivX Media Format" encodes, with streams placed within the .divx container.

May I ask you guy's to confirm whether any stand-alone player manufacturers have been in discussion with you about adding firmware upgrades to their existing players?

By-the-way, earlier today I generated an .divx test encode with 3No MP3 audio (and 6No subtitle) streams.

I span the encode in my Pioneer DV-575A player. And even though the player was able to detect all three audio streams, it was unable to select between them. The same thing happened with the subtitle streams - but I was expecting this.


Cheers

[Sagittaire]

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[Sagittaire]

PixiesII and bbdoc are french moderator here (http://forum.surdvd.com/)
bbdoc is the creator of this project (http://www.divxtest.com/results.php3)
the next cdr test will come with these spec (http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=40598)

G_Compatibilité : formats audio acceptés
Tests de compatibilité: MP3
AUD-1A mp3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple test mp3)
AUD-1B mp3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test du VBR)
AUD-1C mp3 pro 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du SBR, vérifier si possible que le sampling rate est bien de 48Khz) >> Comment ? ?
AUD-1D mp3 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du multicanal)

Tests de compatibilité: AAC
AUD-2A LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple test AAC)
AUD-2B LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test du VBR)
AUD-2C HE-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du SBR, vérifier si possible que le sampling rate est bien de 48Khz) >> Comment ? ?
AUD-2D LC-AAC 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du multicanal)

Tests de compatibilité: WMA9
AUD-3A WMA9 Sdt 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple test WMA9 sdt)
AUD-3B WMA9 Sdt 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test du VBR)
AUD-3C WMA9 Pro 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple test du WMA9 Pro)
AUD-3D WMA9 Pro 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du multicanal)

Tests de compatibilité: Ogg Vorbis
AUD-4A Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple test Ogg Vorbis)
AUD-4B Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test du VBR)
AUD-4C Ogg Vorbis 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du multicanal)

Tests de compatibilité: MPC
AUD-5A MPC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (simple test MPC)
AUD-5B MPC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test du VBR)

Tests de compatibilité: Autres
AUD-6A fichier AC3 5.1
AUD-6B fichier DTS 5.1
AUD-6C fichier KAR 2.0 fichier Karaoke seul (test complémentaire au test 015, qui définit le support CD+G


H_Compatibilité : codecs video acceptés
MPEG1 et MPEG2
VID-1A VCD MPEG1 1150 Kbps + MP2 224 Kbps (test de compatibilité au standard VCD avec fichier seul)
VID-1B SVCD MPEG2 2520 Kbps + MP2 224 Kbps (test de compatibilité au standard SVCD avec fichier seul)
VID-1C KVCD MPEG2 VBR + MP2 224 Kbps (test de compatibilité MPEG2 atypique KVCD avec fichier seul)
VID-1D MPEG2 MP@HL HD 1280*720*60 + AC3 5.1 384 Kbps (test de compatibilité au standard MPEG2 MP@HL 720p avec fichier transport stream)
VID-1E MPEG2 MP@HL HD 1920*1088*30 + AC3 5.1 384 Kbps (test de compatibilité au standard MPEG2 MP@HL 1080i avec fichier transport stream)

Microsoft MPEG4 (M$ MPEG4 V3, DivX 3.xx, DivX 3 NBC ...)
VID-2A DivX 3 + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité DivX3)
VID-2B DivX 3 Bitrate Crash Test + MP3 CBR (crash test avec 4 niveaux de difficulté, indiquer la valeur à partir de laquelle la lecture saccade)
VID-2C DivX 3 High Definition 1280*720 + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité High Definition 720p)
VID-2D DivX 3 High Definition 1920*1088 + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité High Definition 1080p)

MPEG4 ASP (XviD, DivX4, DivX5, DivX6, 3ivX, NeroDigital ASP ...)
VID-3A MPEG4 ASP 4CC DivX + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité simple du codec DivX)
VID-3B MPEG4 ASP 4CC XviD + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité simple du codec XviD)
VID-3C MPEG4 ASP Bframes + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité multi-bframe sans packet bitstream)
VID-3D MPEG4 ASP Bframes packet bitstream + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité multi-bframe avec packet bitstream)
VID-3E MPEG4 ASP Custom Matrix + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité avec les custom matrix)
VID-3F MPEG4 ASP Qpel + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité avec le Qpel)
VID-3G MPEG4 ASP GMC 1 WP & 3 WP + MP3 CBR (test de compatibilité avec le GMC 1 & 3 warp point (DivX & XviD))
VID-3H MPEG4 ASP Bitrate Crash Test + MP3 CBR (crash test avec 4 niveaux de difficulté, indiquer la valeur à partir de laquelle la lecture saccade)
VID-3I MPEG4 ASP High Definition 1280*720 (test de compatibilité High Definition 720p)
VID-3J MPEG4 ASP High Definition 1920*1088 (test de compatibilité High Definition 1080p)

MPEG4 AVC (Nero AVC, x264, Quick Time AVC, MainConcept AVC, Sorensen AVC ...)
VID-4A MPEG4 AVC Main Profil + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité du H264 Main Profil)
VID-4B MPEG4 AVC High Profil + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité du H264 High Profil)
VID-4C MPEG4 AVC Bframe + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité avec le multi-bframe)
VID-4D MPEG4 AVC Reference Frame + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité avec le multi-reference frame)
VID-4E MPEG4 AVC Cabac + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité avec Cabac)
VID-4F MPEG4 AVC weighted prediction + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité avec weighted prediction)
VID-4G MPEG4 AVC avec matrice de quantisation + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité avec custom quant matrix)
VID-4H MPEG4 AVC Bitrate Crash Test + LC-AAC CBR (crash test avec 4 niveaux de difficulté, indiquer la valeur à partir de laquelle la lecture saccade)
VID-4I MPEG4 AVC High Definition 1280*720 + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité High Definition 720p)
VID-4J MPEG4 AVC High Definition 1920*1088 + LC-AAC CBR (test de compatibilité High Definition 1080p)

Microsoft WMV9 ou VC-1
VID-5A WMV9 MP@ML + WMA9 sdt CBR (test de compatibilité WMV9)
VID-5B WMV9 Bitrate Crash Test + WMA9 sdt CBR (crash test avec 4 niveaux de difficulté, indiquer la valeur à partir de laquelle la lecture saccade)
VID-5C WMV9 MP@HP High Definition 1280*720 + WMA9 sdt CBR (test de compatibilité High Definition 720p)
VID-5D WMV9 MP@HP High Definition 1920*1088 + WMA9 sdt CBR (test de compatibilité High Definition 1080p)


I_Compatibilité : test des conteneurs video et des “bivx”
Conteneur *.AVI
CONT-1A MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test de compatibilité simple conteneur AVI
CONT-1B MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec mp3 vbr)
CONT-1C MPEG4 ASP + AC3 5.1 48KHz 384 Kbps CBR (test du multicanal)
CONT-1D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio MP3 2.0)
CONT-1E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple AC3 5.1 Eng (test du multi-audio en AC3 multicanal)
CONT-1F MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (test du chapitrage)
CONT-1G MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (test des sous-titres AVI)
CONT-1H MPEG4 ASP + DXAudio 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du DivX audio (old WMA)
CONT-1I MPEG4 ASP + Multi DXAudio 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio avec DivX audio)

Conteneur *.DivX Norme DivX6
CONT-2A MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test de compatibilité simple conteneur DivX
CONT-2B MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec mp3 vbr)
CONT-2C MPEG4 ASP + AC3 5.1 48KHz 384 Kbps CBR (test du multicanal)
CONT-2D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio MP3 2.0)
CONT-2E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple AC3 5.1 Eng (test du multi-audio en AC3 multicanal)
CONT-2F MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (test du chapitrage)
CONT-2G MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (test des sous-titres Divx6)

Conteneur *.MP4 Norme iso-MPEG4 officielle (Nero Digital)
CONT-3A MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test de compatibilité simple conteneur MP4)
CONT-3B MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec AAC VBR)
CONT-3C MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR test de l'AAC multicanal
CONT-3D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple LC-AAC 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio AAC 2.0)
CONT-3E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple LC-AAC 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio en AAC multicanal)
CONT-3F MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 + chapter (test du chapitrage)
CONT-3G MPEG4 ASP + LC-AAC 2.0 + Multiple subtitles (test des sous-titres Nero Digital)

Conteneur *.MKV Norme Matroska
CONT-4A MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test de compatibilité simple container MKV)
CONT-4B MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec MP3 VBR)
CONT-4C MPEG4 ASP + AC3 5.1 (test de l'ac3 multicanal)
CONT-4D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio MP3 2.0)
CONT-4E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple AC3 5.1 Eng (test du multi-audio en AC3 multicanal)
CONT-4F MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (test du chapitrage)
CONT-4G MPEG4 ASP + MP3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (test des sous-titres Matroska)

Conteneur *.OGM
CONT-5A MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test de compatibilité simple container OGM
CONT-5B MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec Ogg Vorbis VBR)
CONT-5C MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test de l'Ogg Vorbis multicanal)
CONT-5D MPEG4 ASP + Multiple Ogg 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio avec Ogg Vorbis 2.0)
CONT-5E MPEG4 ASP + Multiple Ogg Vorbis 5.1 (test du multi-audio avec Ogg Vorbis multicanal)
CONT-5F MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (test du chapitrage)
CONT-5G MPEG4 ASP + Ogg Vorbis 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (test des sous-titres *.OGM)

Conteneur *.WMV Norme Microsoft
CONT-6A WMV9 + WMA9 sdt 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test de compatibilité simple conteneur WMV)
CONT-6B WMV9 + WMA9 sdt 48KHz 96Kbps VBR (test de synchro audio-video avec WMA9 VBR)
CONT-6C WMV9 + WMA9 pro 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR (test du WMA9 multicanal)
CONT-6D WMV9 + Multiple WMA9 sdt 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio WMA9 steréo)
CONT-6E WMV9 + Multiple WMA9 pro 5.1 48KHz 96Kbps CBR (test du multi-audio WMA9 multicanal)
CONT-6F WMV9 + WMA9 sdt 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + chapter (test du chapitrage)
CONT-6G WMV9 + WMA9 sdt 48KHz 96Kbps CBR + Multiple subtitles (test des sous-titres *WMV9)

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'm sorry Sagittaire but I have not got a clue what your posts are trying to say in relation to my question about the DivX Media Format!

Which is: -May I ask you guy's [DivX] to confirm whether any stand-alone player manufacturers have been in discussion with you about adding [full DivX Media Format] firmware upgrades to their existing players?


Cheers

[numaios]

Thank you for the compatibility chart, Saggitaire!
I've tested DivX Media Format with my Blu-Sens by Ascomtec (model DVD3005) with the last update (from 10_06_2005).

Video: OK
Soundtracks: OK
Subtitle streams: KO
*.divx extension: OK
*.avi extension: OK
Menus: KO

Bye!

[DigitAl56K]

Hello DivX,
May I ask you guy's to confirm whether any stand-alone player manufacturers have been in discussion with you about adding firmware upgrades to their existing players?


Hi SeeMoreDigital,

As much as I'd like to confirm this one way or the other, it really is up to the manufacturers whether they release full support for DivX media files via a firmware upgrade, or only in new players. We work with all of the manufacturers to ensure that they can support the format fully, but these kind of choices are not made by our team. You could start lobbying your favorite manufacturer for firmware.. ;)


By-the-way, earlier today I generated an .divx test encode with 3No MP3 audio (and 6No subtitle) streams.

I span the encode in my Pioneer DV-575A player. And even though the player was able to detect all three audio streams, it was unable to select between them. The same thing happened with the subtitle streams - but I was expecting this.

We released an update to DivX Converter the other day that may correct some compatibility issues. Some players allow you to switch tracks via the remote, some through a menu. Does the Revelations fan movie work?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks for the information update. However, it would still be useful to have some kind of indication as to player manufacturers who've approached you so far :)

May I ask, has DXN contacted any of the player manufacturers directly to make them aware of .divx's advance features?

With regard to the Revelations movie, I would love to try it but I'm not prepared to install bit-torrent software on my PC...


Cheers

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well that's got it....

Yesterday I downloaded DivX's Last Man Standing (http://www.divx.com/movies/lastmanstanding.php) test sample, for playback in my Pioneer DV-575A stand-alone player

As far as I can determine, the file has the following specification: -General
File Name : LastManStanding
File Bitrate : 4705 Kbps
Run Time : 1 min 36 sec 29 ms
Menu Information : Yes
Chapter Marking : No

Video
Codec : DivX6
Bitrate : 4436 Kbps
Aspect : 720 x 400 (1.800)
AR Signalling :
FPS : 29.97

Audio
01 Language : English Main
Codec : MP3
Bitrate : 160 Kbps
Sample Rate : 48kHz
Channels : 2

02 Language : English
Codec : MP3
Bitrate : 156 Kbps
Sample Rate : 48kHz
Channels : 2

03 Language : French
Bitrate : 156 Kbps
Codec : MP3
Sample Rate : 48kHz
Channels : 2

04 Language : German
Codec : MP3
Bitrate : 156 Kbps
Sample Rate : 48kHz
Channels : 2

05 Language : Spanish
Codec : MP3
Bitrate : 156 Kbps
Sample Rate : 48kHz
Channels : 2

06 Language : Japanese
Bitrate : 156 Kbps
Codec : MP3
Sample Rate : 48kHz
Channels : 2

Subtitles
01 Language : English
Type : DivX.com Subtitle

02 Language : French
Type : DivX.com Subtitle

03 Language : German
Type : DivX.com Subtitle

04 Language : Spanish
Type : DivX.com Subtitle

05 Language : Japanese
Type : DivX.com SubtitleI'm happy to announce that my player was able to switch thru' both the audio and the subtitle streams without any problems at all


Cheers

[Gej]

No BT ? too bad you miss a lot of interresting stuff !
But we still love you ;-)

here: http://trailers.divx.com/dmf/Revelations.divx

[ricardo.santos]

=DigitAl56K

We released an update to DivX Converter the other day that may correct some compatibility issues. Some players allow you to switch tracks via the remote, some through a menu. Does the Revelations fan movie work?


i updated divxconverter but my player wont recognize multiple audio tracks, it will recognize multiple subs

samsung ht-ds490

[SeeMoreDigital]

i updated divxconverter but my player wont recognize multiple audio tracks, it will recognize multiple subs

samsung ht-ds490Same sort of problem here too!

Tried with DivX Converter v1.0.1.42 and no joy with multiple audio or subtitle switching on my Pioneer DV-575A.


Cheers

[ricardo.santos]

After a few more tests:

I usually bacup my dvds with dvd shrink or dvddecrypter and divx converter would read the vobs and recognize the subs and all would be played in the pc.

On my divxplayer the only thing not recognized would be multiple audio tracks.


After I updated divx converter:

Divx converter recognizes audio and subs. after converting, the multiple subs are not viewable either on pc or standalone player, but when i use divxplayer(software) it still recognizes the multiple subs, I select to play them but nothing appears onscreen.

This is not a problem as i still use drdivx for my backups and for adding to it subs i use the srt2bmp2xsub tool that does a lot better job than divxconverter does with subs.

I will run some more tests and post something tomorrow

[neo_anderson]

video encoded using divx 6 works in which all containers, besides .avi and .divx?

[SeeMoreDigital]

video encoded using divx 6 works in which all containers, besides .avi and .divx? Divx6... with or without full "DivX Media Format" features?


Cheers

[TheSeeker]

Just wondering. I am in the market for a new dvd player, and I would like to get one that supports divx/xvid. Preferably I would like that player to support the .ogm container, but I dont think those exist yet. I would like the player to have network capabilities, so I can serve out movies from my computer to it. A HDD is a plus. Just wondering what players you guys suggest that have these features? I know Kiss makes one with a HDD and a network port, are there any others?

What are your guys' experiences with these players?

Oh divx 6 support would be nice too.