Nero Recode 2 Profiles what do you use?

[Scarpad]

THanks for the suggestions I mainly was using Cinema but I wonder if Standard would merit an equal picture?

[bond]

for avc or asp?

[Scarpad]

Asp....

[bond]

the profiles are there for ensuring interoperability with hardware players, they influence codec option (like not allowing some) for ensuring that, and will therefore limit the maximum quality possible.

using them only makes sense when owning a hardware player (or when you plan to buy one soon). imho the avc profiles are totally senseless atm, cause noone really knows atm what future avc chips will be able to play

if you dont own a player use maximum definition for being able to use the codec without limits

[Scarpad]

My concern is this. While right now I want to use these mainly for my Win XP Laptop & My PocketPC, I also want to hare them with my Mac, and Possibly a future PMP.

[bond]

the profiles in nero recode only aim at nero-related products, so if you want to be interoperable with qt7 or any other non-nero product you dont need to care about profiles, but about the settings you use when encoding

[GUTB]

Why on Earth would anyone use Record anyway? We have a free and actually very good AVC and a bunch of half-baked MP4 tools that when taken together can actually put out quality results.

And besides -- I found Nero's implimentation to suck pretty bad at low bitrates.

[acidsex]

Why on Earth would anyone use Record anyway? We have a free and actually very good AVC and a bunch of half-baked MP4 tools that when taken together can actually put out quality results.

And besides -- I found Nero's implimentation to suck pretty bad at low bitrates.


Sorry but that is just a senseless statement. While x264 is maturing and becoming better with each implementation, it no way comes close to the quality that Nero outputs currently. Free is nice but remember, you always get what you pay for.

If you find Nero's quality "sucky", perhaps you are not configuring your encode options correctly. Soemthing to consider.

[greggerm]

Not to mention the "half baked" part...

I'm a casual encoder - I don't know the science behind it, and I don't really CARE to know the science behind it... I just want my encodes to work and look good! I am the customer AutoGK caters to, and when it comes to AVC, I am the customer Nero Digital caters to.

While someday I may spend the time to learn, right now I just want to essentially point, click, and encode. Nero Digital lets me do this to my AVC encodes... and they suit my needs perfectly!

And back on topic, I use Cinema - AVC for my movie encodes...

-Greg

[GUTB]

Fair enough. For what it is, Recode is okay. A minimilist alli-in-one AVC authoring and backup tool. But lots of us want to use VirtualDub. Because we want to continue working with AVIs that will work for everyone without priority junk all over the place. I simply cannot ask people to go download hacked players, some bugged out junker splitter and codec packs when just one codec freeware install will do. And I can't ask them to go buy Nero just to be sure everyone is seeing what I want them to.

And that's why all these half-baked MP4 tools basically suck -- making them produce fully compliant output with any level of stream complexity is like pulling teeth. So the solution to this -- x264/mp3 to AVI through vdub. Works with MS's media player. Works with RM, works in QT, works everywhere. If I could take just ONE of these half-working MP4 tools and be ensured it will output fully compliant streams and mux them into fully working and synched A/V files then that's where I'd be. But we don't have that yet. And Recode simply does not do this.

[berrinam]

@GUTB: I don't think you are being fair.

I simply cannot ask people to go download hacked players, some bugged out junker splitter and codec packs when just one codec freeware install will do. And I can't ask them to go buy Nero just to be sure everyone is seeing what I want them to.


FFDshow + Haali's Matroska splitter will let any DirectShow-based player support Nero mp4 files. Quicktime 7 supports AVC in mp4, but AFAIK not in avi. As for RealPlayer, I have no idea.

And that's why all these half-baked MP4 tools basically suck -- making them produce fully compliant output with any level of stream complexity is like pulling teeth. So the solution to this -- x264/mp3 to AVI through vdub.

This seems a bit of a contradiction considering how buggy AVC-in-AVI is. Anyway, Nero Recode, as well as x264cli will both produce fully compliant mp4 outputs, so I don't know what you are complaining about.

If I could take just ONE of these half-working MP4 tools and be ensured it will output fully compliant streams and mux them into fully working and synched A/V files then that's where I'd be. But we don't have that yet. And Recode simply does not do this.
Once again, who says they are half-working? And what problems are there with A/V synch in Nero Recode? The thing it has to recommend itself is that it is an all-in-one solution that manages all of this fine.

So what are you basing your accusations on? People have put effort into these 'half-baked' tools, and they work. If you want to use x264vfw, that is fine, but don't insist others do.

[bond]

GUTB, before you continue indentifying lots of "half-baked" tools, make sure you read up a lot for getting a relevant amount of knowledge about the tools you are critizing with mostly not backed up claims