DVDFab Decrypter for Free!...Works with ARccOS

[feedback]

I Found the following information:


DVDFab Decrypter (Free Edition)

"This tool is simply the easiest way to copy a DVD movie. Just insert the movie and a blank DVD then press Start. Your entire movie - including menus, trailers and special features - is copied to a single DVD with just one click, and everything happens automatically. DVDFab Decrypter (Free Edition) is a simple version of DVDFab Express. It copies an entire DVD movie to hard disk, and removes all the rotections (CSS, RC, RCE, Macrovision, UOPs and Sony ARccOS) while copying.

We all know DVD Decrypter is a great DVD ripper, why we need nother one? Well, the reason is DVD Decrypter"s development has stopped, so it will not support newer version of Sony ARccOS protection automatically. Fortunately, DVDFab Decrypter (Free Edition) is always updated to support latest protection, so you can backup your DVD movies to hard disk as before. For example, Movie "Closer" can"t be copied by DVD Decrypter automatically, but with the help of DVDFab Decrypter (Free Edition), you can copy it without problem".


I guess we will have to try it out. Get it Here (http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm)

Regards,:)

EDIT: Name change

[mrbass]

this is awesome. Basically dvd43 sold some source code to dvdidle or something like that. For those who don't want to use dvd43 for ARcoSS or anydvd $. For mac there is mactheripper (supports ARcoSS) and for linux....hmmm just dvddecrypter for ARcoSS.

[feedback]

After some of you guys try this application out, let us know what kind of results you get.

I know it will be hard to equal the results of DVDD but this app. is Free and updated.

Maybe after what happened to LIGHTING UK! more people will release their source code to the community.

What is your opinion?

Regards,:)

[nwg]

I have tried it on Resident Evil Apocalypse and it works fine. It creates a directory called Disc 1 and the entire files are in there. I probably use this from now on for any difficult DVD's and use DVDD for the rest.

[mpennel]

I downloaded and installed it. Features are very basic, but useable. I haven't tried it yet on an actual DVD.

Beggers can't be choosers, but it only appears to rip the DVD to VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders on your hard drive. I'm so used to ripping with DVDD to an ISO image to mount in Daemon tools that I'll miss that, but like a said, it is still be useable. I'll have to give it a whirl and see what it does.

[feedback]

Well I used it. Ripped the complete DVD to HD. I then opened up the files with Shrink, re-authored and burned with Nero. Looks good to me.

Everybody that had anything to do with the release of this application and the source code should be thanked. I feel almost certain it was in response to the DVD Decrypter situation.

Regards,:)

P.S. With larger movies I normally use DVD-RB Pro.

[cynthia_old]

I have tried it on Resident Evil Apocalypse and it works fine. It creates a directory called Disc 1 and the entire files are in there. I probably use this from now on for any difficult DVD's and use DVDD for the rest.

Hi nwg! :)

Did you try to open the files in DVD Shrink?

If so - no black intro before the main movie starts?

[LoloMc]

I feel almost certain it was in response to the DVD Decrypter situation.

Sure ! Read the text during installation :
Honestly, if there wouldn't have risks for Lightning Uk!, I couldn't stop laughing about the pathetic stupid decision of Macrovi$ion
I hope this company will die (nobody will want to buy his new RipGuard protection ;))


2. Why need it?
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We all know DVD Decrypter is a great DVD ripper, why we need another one?
Well, the reason is DVD Decrypter's development has stopped, so it will not
support newer version of Sony ARccOS protection automatically. Fortunately,
DVDFab Decrypter is always updated to support latest protection, so you can
backup your DVD movies to hard disk as before. For example, Movie 'Closer'
cannot be copied by DVD Decrypter automatically, but with the help of
DVDFab Decrypter, you can copy it without problem.

[Lazza]

Good tool for sure but I'd still prefer to use DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD, that way you still have many, many, many more options including ripping to a .iso image and being able to mount under Daemon Tools.

For me personally, the best features by far of DVD Decrypter were always the various ISO read/write abilities. :)

[tylo]

It appears that this tool can be used on files that was copied from a DVD to the HD with explorer, because you can choose a directory as source, and not only a drive. DVDDecrypter must rip from a real or virtual drive.

[tylo]

It also appears that you can tweak some more settings than those which are available from the GUI, using regedit. Note that it counts the number of launches you have made. [Add: Some of these are probably leftovers from the full version, with burning capability. tmppath is useful though.]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVDFab Express (Free Edition)]
"region"="2"
"doublelayer"="1"
"removecss"="1"
"deltmpfiles"="1"
"askbefore"="0"
"owrewritable"="0"
"burnanother"="0"
"tmppath"="C:\\DVDFabExpress_Temp\\DVD\\"
"dvdrsize"="4200"
"defaultspeed"="0"
"launchcount"="13"
"preferedsource"=""
"preferedtarget"=""

[feedback]

@tylo
It also appears that you can tweak some more settings than those which are available from the GUI

Are settings still available with the change they made. It is now named DVDFAB Decrypter. It is also 3Kb smaller.

Regards,:)

P.S. I think they changed the name in honor of DVDD.

[tylo]

Yes,
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVDFab Decrypter]

but again, only a few of the keys has any effect.

[cynthia_old]

The log list is a joke - if anyone understands that one - I'll give you credit. :)

Must be a sideeffect of the downstripping.

[Wheelie4]

cynthia_old,

What log list are you refering to? If you mean the list Tylo posted above, that just the registry listing he found in regedit for DVDFab Express (Free Edition) and not a log list. But I feel confident you knew that and your refering to another log list somewhere.

[jwo62]

Hi All,

I tried it on the movie "Hitch" r1.

It seemed to copy ok,but both dvdshrink and dvd2one failed to process the ripped files.

[cynthia_old]

\program files\DVDFab Decrypter\fabexlog.txt

[radar]

Hi All,

I tried it on the movie "Hitch" r1.

It seemed to copy ok,but both dvdshrink and dvd2one failed to process the ripped files.


what vers are you using

[Lazza]

Hi All,

I tried it on the movie "Hitch" r1.

It seemed to copy ok,but both dvdshrink and dvd2one failed to process the ripped files.

OK seems the problem was with that version of AnyDVD and SlySoft have released a new version which they promise solves it. :)


5.2.5.1

2005 06 16

- New: Added support for a new version of the "Sony ARccOS

protection" as found on "Closer" R2 (German) to the

option to remove "Protection based on unreadable

Sectors" (it should really work now).

- New: Improved behaviour after wakeup from standby on

notebook computers. AnyDVD is now fully compatible with

Microsoft Windows XP Media Center

- Some minor fixes and improvements

- Updated languages



http://update.slysoft.com/SetupAnyDVD5251.exe

[jwo62]

I'm sorry,

I should have been more complete in my statement.

It was dvdfab decryptor that I ripped hitch with.

[Wheelie4]

\program files\DVDFab Decrypter\fabexlog.txt
Ah, thx. I was lost for a moment (a usual occurrence though). :)

[Wheelie4]

It appears that this tool can be used on files that was copied from a DVD to the HD with explorer, because you can choose a directory as source, and not only a drive. DVDDecrypter must rip from a real or virtual drive.
Although I haven't ripped anything with DVDFab Decrypter yet, upon openning the program I noticed that too. Now if they could add the ability to rip from an unmounted .iso image like DVDShrink can.

[writersblock29]

Looks like DVDFab Decrypter automatically removes UOPs, and this option can't be turned off. Can anyone confirm whether or not this messes up forced subtitles? I know there were certain instances where DVD Decrypter would knock forced subs out of whack once UOPs were removed.

[Edit] I just tested it myself using Star Wars Episode II, NTSC Region 1. Forced subs are active, right where they need to be!

[r0lZ]

I don't think PUOs are related to forced subpics display.
But it is sometimes extremely important to keep them in the IFOs, at least in the menu domains. It's a big gap in this program!

[elizerrojas]

Hi nwg! :)

Did you try to open the files in DVD Shrink?

If so - no black intro before the main movie starts?

hi cynthia. i'll have to desagree with you on fab decrypter, i have use it twice and it has been great. fast and the files it created worked with all my programs(shrink)

[nwg]

I don't think PUOs are related to forced subpics display.
But it is sometimes extremely important to keep them in the IFOs, at least in the menu domains. It's a big gap in this program!


There is a PUO that forces a subtitle on as default. I have seen it happen where PUO's are taken off and the forced sub is not displayed.

I try to find the website that has a list of all the PUO's where I read about it.

[r0lZ]

I try to find the website that has a list of all the PUO's where I read about it.Thanks in advance, nwg. I am very curious, because I have never managed to display forced subpics successfully without an explicit SetSTN.

[nwg]

Thanks in advance, nwg. I am very curious, because I have never managed to display forced subpics successfully without an explicit SetSTN.

I can't find it.

I think my memory might be wrong though. I do rememeber that taking of PUO's can make subtitles appear as default rather than hide them. I think I am thinking of that. I found an old post where I said the same thing on the DVD Shrink forum.

I have found out that using Shrink's reauthor requires the user to force the forced subtitle back on (using hide/display subpicture in Shrink) otherwise nothing comes up.

[writersblock29]

@nwg and r0lZ

I've actually had a few disks that had this problem -- but since this was back in the days of re-authoring everything (before the age of the many one-clickers) -- I can't for the life of me remember which disks those were. I had stumbled across a thread which addressed this problem, and someone (I THINK it was Lightning UK, but my hand's not on the Bible for this one) suggested disabling Decrypter's PUO removal option. In my situation, this proved to be the trick, and fixed the problem. I've not removed any PUOs since... at least, until starting to use DVDFab Decrypter.

NOW. In DVD Shrink -- whether PUOs are removed or not -- any project that I've given the movie-only treatment needed for me to specify a default folder of subs in order for forced subs to work... unless, oddly, that project didn't need transcoded (Hellboy comes to mind, as does Once Upon A Time In Mexico). In those cases, so long as I didn't remove any of the subs (and I rarely do), all worked well.

So, really, I guess I can see a good argument both for and against the idea of PUO removal screwing up forced subs. If it doesn't... then why'd unchecking "remove PUOs" in Decrypter fix previous problems? If it DOES... then why doesn't it fix 'Shrink from messing with them? I'm not sure if maybe there are CERTAIN PUOs that CERTAIN programs will remove -- which other programs leave alone... or what the deal is. Which is why I'll never pretend to be anything other than a program USER, rather than a programER! 'Got enough complications in my life as it is!

Cheers!

[Edit] AnyDVD's homepage mentions forced subtitles as one of the PUOs it removes. http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html

[r0lZ]

Thanks, guys.

[Edit] AnyDVD's homepage mentions forced subtitles as one of the PUOs it removes.I think they are talking of something else. Of course, if you leave the Subpicture Stream Change PUO, you will not be able to change the current subtitle with the remote. But it doesn't mean that this stream has not been enabled by a SetSTN.

In DVD Shrink -- whether PUOs are removed or not -- any project that I've given the movie-only treatment needed for me to specify a default folder of subs in order for forced subs to work...What do you mean? Where is this "default folder of subs" option?

[writersblock29]

@r0lZ

When you go into reauthor mode (for creating a movie-only project), you can right-click on your chosen title after importing it into the "DVD Structure" window. You'll get a drop-down list that contains an option which states, "set default streams." Once you've selected this option, you have the ability to select which audio and subtitle streams you'd like to play as your default. Any subtitle streams you select become forced subs on your output files. Well... SORT OF forced, since I beleive you can turn them off with your remote during playback. Gets kind of tricky if your forced subs on the original are in English, and you find yourself with three or four English subtitle folders to choose from. On the other hand, if you're saving more than one audio track, you won't have to worry about the director's commentary being the track that your set top player chooses to automatically play. It has mixed practicality, in other words. If there's such a thing as all your subs being in one folder with forced flags on only some of them, (I've never seen a studio disk like this, but I remember manually doing it while reauthoring in DVD Maestro, when I was painfully green with making backups) you're probably screwed from using this option since ALL the subs in that folder will now automatically pop up.

At any rate, this is the method I've been using whenever making use of DVD Shrink -- whether with compression if I only need to whittle a little off to make it fit a +R, or without compression for a DVD Rebuilder project. Works on every set top I've tried it on so far. Nothing AT ALL against Derrow (the man's a credit to our hobby, no doubt about it), but it's easier to me than remembering how to do this in IFOedit.

[r0lZ]

OK. I understand. The 'folders' you are talking about are not real folders with files on your HDD. Now, it makes sense.

Any subtitle streams you select become forced subs on your output files. Well... SORT OF forced, since I beleive you can turn them off with your remote during playback.In fact, they are not Forced Subpics at all. Forced Subpics are subpics defined with a special 'Forced' flag in the IFOs, and are theorically used only to translate some parts of the dialogs that are not in the language you selected, or foreign text in the video images. This is what I can't handle properly in PgcEdit. (Maybe it's related to Forced Captions in the NTSC Line 21, which are not standard subpic streams at all.)
The subpic stream you select in Shrink is displayed with the standard SetSTN command. Nothing mysterious here.
Thanks anyway for your answer.

[blutach]

There is a PUO that forces a subtitle on as default. I have seen it happen where PUO's are taken off and the forced sub is not displayed.

I try to find the website that has a list of all the PUO's where I read about it.I'm confused. What forced subbie PUO? There is a PUO that stops you from changing subbies. And another which stops you from going to the defined subpic menu. And even another which stops you from pressing buttons.

I can't see one that stops the forced subbie being displayed - especially if PUOs are removed.

In the menu domain, it is useful to set PUOs at 192 (prohibits next and prev program). This will ensure you don't inadvertantly press next and possibly find yourself in a situation where you get a dead stop.

As for forced subbies, I believe this term is used incorrectly in many instances. The forced stream is labeled just that and its value is 63 (0x3f). Other "foreign speak" streams may look like a forced stream, but actually have a regular subtitle stream number (0x40 and above).

Regards

[Funnybook]

After some of you guys try this application out, let us know what kind of results you get.

I tried DVDFab Gold v2.85 on 'Farewell My Concubine' (Miramax) which is a double-layer disk. I chose 'Whole disk to hard drive' 'not 9to5 reduction' and it reported that it had completed successfully, but when I played the files the movie locked up at the protection point, that is, the same point where DVDDecrypter reported a sector out of range and failed (about one minute from the end of the movie).

I then used "Other Tools/Correct DVD Sectors" on that file set and again, it reported that it had completed successfully. But again, when I play the movie it locks up then jumps back to the menu at the same point.

I tried to demux the files and that process failed; everything I tried to get that last minute of the movie failed.

Next I went through the same precise experiences on Disk 1 of the three disk set 'Bordertown' (disks 2 and 3 copied just fine).

I have also tried DVDFab Decrypter as above with the same result. So, DVD Fab isn't working on these two titles. Any advice on getting them backed up would be greatly appreciated.

[feedback]

@Funnybook

What Region are you in?

Have you tried DVDFab Decrypter v2.9.3.0?

Regards,:)

[writersblock29]

@Funnybook

You may try updating your version of DVDFab Gold. According to the programer's website, the latest version is 2.9.3.0. In the history files, there's this honorable mention:

New: Support a special version of "Sony ARccOS protection" as found on Anacondas R2.

Not sure if this pertains to your project or not... but what could it hurt?

Good luck!

[Edit] Sorry, Feedback! Just read your post! Looks like we had the same idea.

[Funnybook]

You may try updating your version of DVDFab Gold.

Thank you for replying, writersblock29. I have replied to feedback in the 'DVD Decrypter will live Forever...with a little help.' thread.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Although there is not much in the way of user settings, all-in-all, DVDFAB Decrypter appears to work okay....

But I wonder why there are references to DVDFAB Express: -

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2818/dvdfabdecrypter0py.png


Cheers

[writersblock29]

@SeeMoreDigital

DVDFab Decrypter's really just a stripped-down version of DVDFab Express. They probably used the same GUI for both programs, and just never removed reference to Express. That, or they want to generate curriousity about the full-fledged program (hence, the direct link to their website when you click the "?" tab). Or neither. Or both. *Shrug* :)