noob; realvideo10 & 60fps, possible?

[posix]

i've catched a particular interest in realmedia encoding as of late.
no matter what i try, i can not get a 60fps video with realvideo10.
i'm wondering if 30fps is a maximum?

please fill me in.
oh and i have used search and read through most pages of this forum, thank you.

[karl_lillevold]

It should be possible now, even though producer used to have a bug that prevented it. Did you change maxFrameRate to 60? It defaults to 30 in most audiences, and GUI options.

[posix]

i could not see a button saying "maxframerate". i had "target framerate", if that has the same effect?
i set it to 60fps using the 350k vbr download template. when i clicked "encode" it instantly failed. source was an uncompressed 256colours video, 60fps. the log says;

Warning: Untitled 1 SDK Configuration Empty filename in input source 2005/06/14 21:28:08
Error: Untitled 1 SDK Configuration Unable to initialize input 2005/06/14 21:28:08
Warning: Untitled 1 SDK Configuration Empty filename in input source 2005/06/14 21:28:08
Warning: Untitled 1 SDK Encoding Skipping audio prefilter because there is no audio input or disableAudio is true. 2005/06/14 21:28:09
Error: Untitled 1 SDK Encoding Unable to set up encode. Your input source may contain an unsupported color format. 2005/06/14 21:28:09
Informational: Untitled 1 SDK Encoding Starting encode 2005/06/14 21:30:52
Informational: Untitled 1 SDK Encoding Starting analysis pass 2005/06/14 21:30:52
Error: Untitled 1 SDK Encoding Unable to set up encode. Your input source may contain an unsupported color format. 2005/06/14 21:30:52
Error: Untitled 1 Video Codec Failed to set up video codec 2005/06/14 21:30:52
Error: Untitled 1 Video Codec Failed to initialize video codec 04VR 2005/06/14 21:30:52
Error: Untitled 1 SDK Encoding Job failed to start encoding 2005/06/14 21:30:52
in fact, the only applications that let me encode to realmedia are adobe after effects and canopus procoder2. i would encode using after effects, but it does only have realvideo9. is there a way to get realvideo10 into it? and possibly realaudio10 as well?

there's another thing that confuses me. the procoder2 encode that worked runs fine. the thing is just that zoomplayer's info window when i play it gives me this;
http://img42.echo.cx/img42/8714/realmedia4ha.png (http://www.imageshack.us)
29.9something?
playing at 65fps :confused:

i encoded the same source with after effects using xvid, and;
http://img42.echo.cx/img42/6627/xvid2ei.png (http://www.imageshack.us)
now isn't that lovely? i wished realmedia worked that way. i know it's possible. i just don't know how to do it. which is why i'm here :)

let me tell you that your help is much appreciated. especially seeing as i'm a noob.
i have always hated real with a passion, for the famous reasons. just then i happened to encode with realvideo10 and it blew me away. which makes this thing even more interesting for me.

[karl_lillevold]

Thank you for your kind sentiment regarding RealVideo 10 quality.

Unfortunately, it appears you have (re-)discovered a bug. The 60 fps bug was fixed back in 2003, but I am sad to say, something broke it again. It is not quite as bad as before though. It turns out you can encode 59.999 fps, just not 60 fps. There must be a mistaken '<' instead of '<=' somewhere :(.

Here is the original bug report:
https://bugs.helixcommunity.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718
you have to login to hc.org to view it.

I will either re-open this, or file a new bug.

To get around the bug, you can use AviSynth :P
AVISource("my60fpsfile.avi").AssumeFPS(59.999)
or any other way to change the fps to less than 60.. Frankly, 60 fps color video sequences should not really exist... A 29.97 fps file, at double the framerate, should be 59.94 fps, AFAIK.

Thanks!

P.S. I don't understand the stats in ZoomPlayer either. When I encode 59.97 fps, it reports the wrong framerates. RealPlayer reports the right framerates. See attachement.