DVD Decrypter will live Forever...with a little help.

[feedback]

I posted this in another thread, but I believe it deserves it's own thread as to many people are saying that DVDD is going the way of the Dodo bird.

The following is from the author of CloneDVD:

I would be happy if you use CloneDVD, but dispite common believe you can combine AnyDVD with DVDDecrypter as well.
Just do the following:

1.) Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model.
2.) Disable the structural protection removal in DVDDecrypter.

DVDDecrypter will see the disc as unprotected and will continue to work... forever.
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Note: All opinions expressed in this post are my personal opinion and do not represent Elaborate Bytes AG, Revilo AG, or anyone else. I am here privately to have fun. Nothing else.

So, as is apparent we can continue to use DVD Decrypter Forever. However, we would have to purchase AnyDVD to work with it.

You can get AnyDVD Here (www.slysoft.com)

[feedback]

I am not marketing AnyDVD. I just wanted to show that there was an available way to continue to use DVDD.

Lightning UK! obviously had AnyDVD in mind or he would not have made available the I/O option.

Regards,:)

[unskinnyboy]

Thanks for the info. You are right, never would have seen this if it wasn't for this thread :D.

[tigerman8u]

thanks. I never knew that :)

[absinthe]

Excellent info. to have! Thanks very much. I've tried using these 2 progs in combination before but it didn't seem to work. I didn't know that I would need to change Decrypter settings to do it.

AnyDVD and CloneDVD are both excellent programs. I hope AnyDVD will continue to be updated and stay safe from lawsuits.

Thx,

-abs

addendum: BTW, anyone know if similar setting adjustments might be necessary in order to use Decrypter in conjunction with something like DVD43?

[feedback]

I hope AnyDVD will continue to be updated and stay safe from lawsuits.

AnyDVD development is located in Antigua where it is perfectly legal to make backup copies of DVD's. It is, also, constantly updated.

So, as I stated DVDD will be able to be used "Ad infinitum", with the help of AnyDVD.
Regards, ;)

P.S. I deleted the original post, as it was not needed since I started this thread
about DVDD. (For those looking for it).

[Swedeman]

2.) Disable the structural protection removal in DVDDecrypter.
Is that the "Check for structure protection" under the general tab?

[dirio49]

i think so

[SeeMoreDigital]

Can a similar proceedure be adopted to link free tools, such as DVD For Free (DVD 43) to DVD Decrypter?


Cheers

[PatchWorKs]

I think the best way to "solve" the problem is to join an (european) open source backup software, so the author' knowledge will not wasted.

What about FairUse (http://www.fairusewizard.com/) ??

[Malphas]

FairUse isn't open-source though, is it?

[Wilbert]

Yes it is (GPL). It doesn't come with a ripper though.

[feedback]

Is that the "Check for structure protection" under the general tab?
That is the one that is indicated.
Regards,:)

P.S. I notice that in some other threads the self-serving are trying to take advantage of the problems of LIGHTNING UK! and DVD Decrypter to make a few dollars.

"May a camel piss in their tent and a plague fall upon their house". :angry:

[feedback]

Can a similar proceedure be adopted to link free tools, such as DVD For Free (DVD 43) to DVD Decrypter?
I feel certain the method is attainable. However, it is beyond my ability, at present.

Maybe some of the more knowledgeable amongst us could give some advice.

Regards,:)

[feedback]

Can a similar proceedure be adopted to link free tools, such as DVD For Free (DVD 43) to DVD Decrypter?

Well it seems as if DVD43 has released some source code to DvDidle so we can use this tool to Decrypt for Free. Try it Here (http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm). It works with ARccOS.

Regards,:)

P.S. A little cross post, but it is relevent. I started a thread in the "One click DVD backup solutions" forum.

[MeridiusUK]

hi all where is the option in dvdd i can not find it thanks

[f@chance]

Make sure you have the latest version. Then click on Tools, Settings and then on the General TAB uncheck check for structure protection. Do also Remove Structure Protection on the File, ISO and ISO Read Mode tab.

[MeridiusUK]

what about patch mv2 patch timecode will i leave that on ?????
why do you need to change to Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model instead of SPTI- microsoft what is the diffrence and why change this option jsut thought i would ask just interested

I tried DVD Region+CSS Free the latest version 5.9.10 and used it with dvddecrypter and it could not rip closer region 2 it hangs on the first vob

i tried anydvd with dvdd and worked why does DVD Region+CSS Free
not work i thought that would do as well which is better tool do you think
or is there a better way

i herd anydvd recks your dvd readers it burns them out or somthing can not remember where i read it is this true

[castellanos]

MeridiusUK:
In the settings of DVD Region+CSS Free, you have a list of programs that actually work together...
DVD Decrypter is, by default, not added in this list, if you want to make them work together, you have to add DVD Decrypter manually.
Greetings! ;)

[MeridiusUK]

hi there m8 i did add it and it still did not work only anydvd works as closer did rip with anydvd and decrypter just not with the css free

what about patch mv2 patch timecode will i leave that on ?????
why do you need to change to Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model instead of SPTI- microsoft what is the diffrence and why change this option jsut thought i would ask just interested

also why do you have to change the options on dd can you not use it the way it is with anydvd what would happen if you did not cjange the optiions in dd

i herd anydvd recks your dvd readers it burns them out or somthing can not remember where i read it is this true

[f@chance]

hi there m8 i did add it and it still did not work only anydvd works as closer did rip with anydvd and decrypter just not with the css freeThe reason for this is that Closer uses the new protection from Sony Aarcos or smething like it. AnyDVD has cracked it and will work with DVDD
what about patch mv2 patch timecode will i leave that on ?????
why do you need to change to Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model instead of SPTI- microsoft what is the diffrence and why change this option jsut thought i would ask just interestedDon't know about the mv2 patch but you should only need that if you demux the video & audio streams and they do need the timecode for sync purposes.

ElbyCDIO is the name for the DLL that AnyDVD uses to do the on the fly decrypting of the DVD. So when that is ticked DVDD will accept what this DLL produces as an unrestricted DVD.
i herd anydvd recks your dvd readers it burns them out or somthing can not remember where i read it is this trueHave not heard this or read about it. Two other sites that will give you more detail on such problems are afterdawn.com and cdfreaks.com. Why don't you search those sites for that problem and report back here in this thread.

[Gurm]

i herd anydvd recks your dvd readers it burns them out or somthing can not remember where i read it is this true

You don't remember where you read this because it's bullshit.

AnyDVD is just fine for your drive.

[MeridiusUK]

ok thanks for the help both will buy anydvd and not bother with DVD Region+CSS Free as i tried the latest version of that and it could not rip closer to but it says its supposed to do the new sony protection but it dont as it locks up when i tried it but with anydvd it works perfectly.

also if i change these settings the I/O will i still be able to write normal dvds like backup xbox games or would it be better to have two dvd decyptors on the same computer one setup for anydvd and other set to normal ?????


thanks

[Gurm]

also if i change these settings the I/O will i still be able to write normal dvds like backup xbox games or would it be better to have two dvd decyptors on the same computer one setup for anydvd and other set to normal ?????

You can always change the settings back. However, I find that in practice unless there's a problem with the disc elbycdio and spti work pretty much the same. The differences are minor. But you can always just set it back without a restart - it just reloads its internals. DVD Decrytper really is/was a WONDERFUL little program in many ways - that's just one of them.

[MeridiusUK]

i dont want to keep changing settings

so can you install two dvddecrypters with two diffrent settings
or will Changing the I/O settings not make any diffrence in writing to dvd films or xbox backups ???? as i used to have the SPTI setting on

[f@chance]

If you got an aversion to changing tick boxes so that the tool is set up doing the job proper, you are in the wrong forum. In life you can't allways get what you want, hmm sound like I song I believe, anyhow so the goalposts have been shifted by Macrovisio, now you got to go with the flow and You got to move, sounds like a nother song from the same group. MeridiusUK have good one and enjoy your backups.

[Gurm]

Elbycdio should work just fine for your XBox burning needs, but I'm saying that from a "don't see why not" position not a "tried that and it works fine" position.

[MeridiusUK]

ok thanks for the help

[fisher_of_menb]

I am at a loss as to why one needs AnyDVD. I have been usinig DVD Decrypter and then DVD Shrink and then DVD Decrypter again, to burn DVD's and so far I haven't run into any problems.

Please advise, with an email to danielschmidt3@comcast.net

[fisher_of_menb]

I have built a AMD 64 machine with Win XP 64 professional as the O/S. Does anyone know if a 64 bit version of DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink are in the works.

These programs both seem to work in the 64 bit environment but at a speed degraded to between 25 to 33% slower than under Win XP professional.

[goober22]

DVDDecrypter has stopped development under legal threat and there will be no further versions after 3.5.4.0. (search the forums for more on that)

DVDshrink had stopped development last year. 3.2.0.15 is the last one I believe. It's author supposedly went to work with Ahead to work on Nero Recode.

[goober22]

I am at a loss as to why one needs AnyDVD. ...

DVDD is fine but now will no longer be updated to handle new copy protection. ANYdvd was an alternative for some people and now may be the only viable alternative to newer protections for awhile.

[fisher_of_menb]

Thanks for clearing up my questions goober22.

I guess Lightning won't be making a 64 bit version of DVDD then, quite obviously.........

[cynthia_old]

and now may be the only viable alternative to newer protections for awhile.There are several other good decrypting programs already now to use that handles all curent protection systems.

[goober22]

There are several other good decrypting programs already now to use that handles all curent protection systems.

Maybe, but not as well as DVDD did. (Just my opinion.) The forums over at cdfreaks are filled with problems with the latest versions of AnyDVD, DVD Fab Decrypter & DVD43.

Seems AnyDVD had terrible trouble with Hitch (and a couple of others), but DVDD worked just fine for me. DVDfab's output files sometimes will not import into compression apps, DVD43 isn't updated as fast.

[Gurm]

There are several other good decrypting programs already now to use that handles all curent protection systems.

Such as? Seriously, you don't think that DVD43 or DVD Fab Decrypter are viable solutions yet, do you? Maybe someday but not today.

People chose AnyDVD (and still do) because SlySoft has excellent support. Nothing like not being able to rip your latest movie purchase, and having someone to e-mail about it.

[cynthia_old]

DVD43Free do have problems with ARccOS DVDs for region code 2.
AnyDVD - never used it and don't have an opinion on that program.
DVDFab Decrypter - works great with DVD Rebuilder but not with DVD Shrink/Nero Recode 2 for ARccOS discs.

There are also two new tools; Magic DVD Ripper and Dvd95Copy. The later might be released as a standalone ripping tool.

Magic is compatible with DVD Shrink/Nero Recode 2. There is at the moment the old DVD Shrink/Nero Recode bug that causes problems for Magic for certain ARccOS region 2 discs. DVDFab Decrypter have the same problem with this old bug.

The author of Magic is working on the solution. The problem is for RE2 region code 2 and a few other old ARccOS discs.The latest ARccOS discs don't causes this problem.

So in my opinion - There are several other good decrypting programs already now to use - that handles all current protection systems.

[digitalman]

I tried the latest version of DVDFab Decrypter, and had no issues with Hitch. Worked perfectly with Nero recode. Maybe people are using an older version. I used the version from 6-22. You can get it here: http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm
I wonder if people did not enable CSS, RC, RCE, Macrovision, UOPs and Sony ARccOS protection removal in Settings.

[cynthia_old]

@ digitalman

Hitch region code 1 - the program don't have issues with that region code. Try a region code 2 instead and you will end up with problems.

[digitalman]

Sorry about that, ignored that important fact. (I hope some day the world decides on one format, as there is in music CDs, but that is a whole other topic.)

[r0lZ]

@ digitalman

Hitch region code 1 - the program don't have issues with that region code. Try a region code 2 instead and you will end up with problems.Why? I can't imagine a reason for that. The protections methods are the same in Z1 and Z2, no?

[cynthia_old]

To be honest - I don't know.

If you take DVD43Free it works very well with region code 1 - but not region code 2.

You have the same problem with DVD Decrypter. Why needed always region code 2 discs a new update for that program to handle the ARccOS problem? Closer is another DVD that works well with DVD Decrypter region code 1 - but the Italian, Dutch and UK region code needed a fix (PSL file) to rip the DVD.

DVDFab Decrypter seems to have the same problem for region code 2 ARccOS DVDs.

So in my opinion there are always problems with region code 2 ARccOS DVDs.

[mukooh]

I would be happy if you use CloneDVD, but dispite common believe you can combine AnyDVD with DVDDecrypter as well.
Just do the following:

1.) Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model.
2.) Disable the structural protection removal in DVDDecrypter.

DVDDecrypter will see the disc as unprotected and will continue to work... forever.

have a question about instruction #1

answer found....never mind...thank god for google

[Funnybook]

Regarding using elbyCDIO with DVDDecrypter:

Make sure you have the latest version. Then click on Tools, Settings and then on the General TAB uncheck check for structure protection.

OK, that part I understand.

Do also Remove Structure Protection on the File, ISO and ISO Read Mode tab.

This second part I don't understand. Would you please be more specific?

[feedback]

@Funnybook
Go to Tools, then Settings section of DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4.0 Uncheck remove Structure Protection on the File Mode, IFO Mode and ISO Read Mode tab. Uncheck in the General tab "Check for Structure Protection".

Basically you Uncheck anything to do with "Structure Protection". That way AnyDVD running in the background can do it's thing (You have to have AnyDVD to make this work).

Oh!, Make sure you go to the I/O tab and change from SPTI to the ElbyCDIO.

Regards,:)

[Funnybook]

Basically you Uncheck anything to do with Structure Protection.

Hi feedback -

Since I have played with DVDDecrypter's settings a little since I installed it, I set it back to all the defaults and then closed it. Then I rebooted and set all of the settings exactly per your instructions and closed it again. AnyDVD 5.3.2.1 is running properly with the little red fox in the tray. I launch DVDDecrypter and double-check the specified settings, and begin the decryption of Bordertown. All is well for about 20 minutes, until halfway through the last cell of the last VTS. This is the message I've been getting for three days:

====================================================

I/O Error!

Device: [1:2:0] LITE-ON SOHD-16P9S FS07 (I:) (ATA)

ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition

CDB: 28 00 00 38 5F A0 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Read (10) - Sector: 3694496

Sense Area: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Logical Block Address out of Range

[Abort] [Retry] [Ignore]

====================================================

After clicking Ignore five times,

Automatically Ignore Read Errors?

After clicking Yes, an endless stream of the same error.

Here's the log:

I 00:10:39 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 00:10:39 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 00:10:39 Initialising ElbyCDIO...
I 00:10:39 ELBYCDIO.DLL - Elaborate Bytes CDRTools - ElbyCDIO DLL - Version 5.1.0.2
I 00:10:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 00:10:39 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 00:11:33 Operation Started!
I 00:11:33 Source Device: [1:2:0] LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S FS07 (I:) (ATA)
I 00:11:33 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 00:11:33 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 00:11:33 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 00:11:33 Source Media Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies
I 00:11:33 Destination Folder: F:\Temp\Border1\
I 00:11:33 File Splitting: By File
I 00:11:33 Check For Structure Protection: No
I 00:11:33 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 00:11:33 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 00:11:33 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 00:11:33 Stream Processing: No
I 00:11:33 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 295 - 302) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:33 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 303 - 359) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:33 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 360 - 367) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:33 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 368 - 385) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:33 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 386 - 4006) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:35 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 4007 - 14441) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:40 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 14442 - 14459) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:40 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 14460 - 14486) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:40 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 14487 - 14543) - KEY: N/A
I 00:11:40 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 14544 - 538745) - KEY: N/A
I 00:14:46 Copying VTS_02_2.VOB... (LBA: 538746 - 1062947) - KEY: N/A
I 00:17:06 Copying VTS_02_3.VOB... (LBA: 1062948 - 1325530) - KEY: N/A
I 00:18:07 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 1325531 - 1325557) - KEY: N/A
I 00:18:07 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 1325558 - 1325582) - KEY: N/A
I 00:18:07 Copying VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 1325583 - 1325639) - KEY: N/A
I 00:18:07 Copying VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 1325640 - 1849841) - KEY: N/A
I 00:19:58 Copying VTS_03_2.VOB... (LBA: 1849842 - 2374043) - KEY: N/A
I 00:23:06 Copying VTS_03_3.VOB... (LBA: 2374044 - 2528611) - KEY: N/A
I 00:23:51 Copying VTS_03_0.BUP... (LBA: 2528612 - 2528636) - KEY: N/A
I 00:23:51 Copying VTS_04_0.IFO... (LBA: 2528637 - 2528663) - KEY: N/A
I 00:23:51 Copying VTS_04_0.VOB... (LBA: 2528664 - 2528720) - KEY: N/A
I 00:23:51 Copying VTS_04_1.VOB... (LBA: 2528721 - 3052922) - KEY: N/A
I 00:26:04 Copying VTS_04_2.VOB... (LBA: 3052923 - 3577124) - KEY: N/A
I 00:27:57 Copying VTS_04_3.VOB... (LBA: 3577125 - 3821277) - KEY: N/A
W 00:32:47 Failed to read Sector 3694496 - Logical Block Address out of Range
W 00:32:49 Failed to read Sector 3694497 - Logical Block Address out of Range
W 00:32:50 Failed to read Sector 3694498 - Logical Block Address out of Range
: << Deleted about a eighty more lines like these >>
W 00:34:21 Failed to read Sector 3694574 - Logical Block Address out of Range
W 00:34:22 Failed to read Sector 3694575 - Logical Block Address out of Range
W 00:34:22 Failed to read Sector 3694576 - Logical Block Address out of Range
I 00:34:22 Abort Request Acknowledged
E 00:34:22 Failed to read Sector 3694577 - Logical Block Address out of Range
E 00:34:23 Failed to copy VTS_04_3.VOB!
E 00:34:26 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:22:53
E 00:34:26 Average Read Rate: 5,381 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Read Rate: 10,441 KB/s (7.5x)

Now, I saw in another thread where if it's left running like this, it will eventually get the whole thing. Earlier today, I left it run for about an hour and it only got a few of the missing 200+ megs of data needed to complete the file. Looking at the numbers I could tell it was going to take another twenty or thirty hours, so naturally I stopped it.

That's where it stands, and this is exactly the same sort of results I've gotten with Farewell My Concubine.

In answer to your questions in another thread, I am in Region 1 (USA), and I do not have DVDFab Decrypter 2.9.3.0 - I have 2.9.2.3 but will go looking for the newer version right now.

Thanks for taking the time to help.

[cynthia_old]

@ Funnybook

Looks more as previously burned disc you are trying to rip.

[Funnybook]

@ Funnybook

Looks more as previously burned disc you are trying to rip.

Hmm? These are both new, perfect, commercial, double layer disks.

[Funnybook]

feedback, in answer to your questions from the other thread (in an effort to bring everything together in one thread) ---

Well the movie has been backed up successfully by others, might there be a physical problem with the disk, like a scratch?

Farewell My Concubine - The disk is new and perfect. In fact, since this was the first time I had ever been unable to rip a disk, I thought it was defective and exchanged it with the merchant.

Bordertown - the disk is new and perfect.

Both disks play fine in both of my standalone external DVD players.

Did you try DVD Decrypter with the settings I indicated with AnyDVD?

Yes, details & log above.

Did you try DVDFab Decrypter v.2.9.3.0?

Yes, I went and got it and tried it just now. It ripped the 7.5 gigs down to 4 gigs even though I had told it I had an 8.5 gig blank disk and it promised 100% quality. The resulting files are all compressed (transcoded?) much smaller than on the source disk, and the problem file, VTS 4 Cell 3, still ends at the previous problem point. Just ends; the time code says it's going to end there, and it does. It didn't get one frame past the girl's face, in fact, it stopped a few frames short of that point.

Have you tried another media player?

No, but I wonder if it could matter when only half the cell is there. I'm getting about 220 megs of a 440 meg cell. The several times I've managed to produce a full-sized final cell, everything chokes on it; VOBBlanker, DVDShrink, any number of the simple 'single-click' rippers, in short, nothing I have tried sees a single frame past the girl's face already shown. However, on your advice I will again re-rip it and try to produce a full-sized cell and then try a different media player.

Are you in PAL land or NTSC? What Region?

NTSC (USA) Region 1.

Have you ReRipped the movie?

Just the once with DVDFab Decrypter v.2.9.3.0 but I'll try again without AnyDVD. No disrespect intended but DVDFab Decrypter v.2.9.3.0 bugs me because of the nearly absolute lack of settings, and it is compressing or transcoding or something even when I tell it not to. I mean, I could put these disks in the external drive and capture them with my capture card, but that's not what I'm after; I'm looking for a true digital copy.

I appreciate your time and suggestions, and I'll keep after them until I get them copied.

[Funnybook]

Yes, I went and got it and tried it just now. It ripped the 7.5 gigs down to 4 gigs even though I had told it I had an 8.5 gig blank disk and it promised 100% quality.

Oops. Allow me to make a correction.

When you install DVDFab Decrypter, it says "DVDFab Express" - the same identical thing it says when you install DVDFab Express. In the above report, I was using Express, shareware on trial, not the freeware Decrypter.

So as soon as I discovered this, I went and got the Decrypter as recommended, but it didn't help. I re-ripped the disk both with and without AnyDVD in place. In both cases, the progress guage got to about the midpoint of the last cell and all of a sudden zoomed to the end. It gave me the 'successfully completed' report but I knew there was no data there before I even looked. Nonetheless, I tried it in three different media players. The movie ends at the previous problem point.

Now just about everything I've said up to now, and the 'melting' captures I linked to earlier, has all been from Bordertown. Since then I have repeated all of these steps with Farewell My Concubine and gotten identical results.

I saw a thread in the past couple days about Sneakers (Was that you, feedback? I can't find it now using Search) and it told how Sneakers had unusual copy protection but it was finally defeated. Well, I pulled my Sneakers off the shelf and ripped it smooth as glass, nothing out of the ordinary. My suggestion is that different production runs may use different protection schemes, that is to say, maybe my version of Farewell My Concubine is somewhat different from the one successfully cracked.

All I can say for certain at this point is... I'm stumped.