No more DECRYPTER..... [Archive]

bourtzovlakas

6th June 2005, 09:39

According to cdfreaks.com there will be no more DECRYPTER updates. :mad: check out the link.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/11914

Really bad news.... :( :( :( :(
Thanks LUK for your wonderful program...

:thanks:

Mug Funky

6th June 2005, 09:53

*vader suit mode*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

berndy2001

6th June 2005, 10:09

Bad News!
Is there a way to release the Source?

Leak

6th June 2005, 10:18

Bad News!
Is there a way to release the Source?
I guess now is a bit late, as that'd probably be held against Lightning UK!...

Of course, if it had been open source all along it wouldn't be like that now, but there's no point in arguing over that point anymore...

np: Wagon Christ - It Is Always Now, All Of It Is Now (Musipal)

geoffman

6th June 2005, 10:51

Damn, that's bad news.

That being said, I wonder how long it will be before a phoenix rises from the ashes?

Even if you aren't allowed to repond any more, all the best Lightning UK, and thanks for the time you put into Decrypter over the years.

Wildfire

6th June 2005, 11:31

Damn! And it was such an excellent program!

I'm sure that within a while, a new program will be released by someone as successor to DVD Decrypter. Hopefully by someone in a country where those f***ing companies can't get to him/her...

I wonder -- by any chance, is there already a program like DVD Decrypter?

SeeMoreDigital

6th June 2005, 11:59

Looks like his web site (http://www.dvddecrypter.com) has been taken down also... and most probably his forum.

I guess we'll get some kind of confirmation on Doom9's main site very soon

How very sad :(

Lazza

6th June 2005, 12:01

Sad day indeed. :(

Thanks LIGHTNING UK! for all your hard work on one of the most useful pieces of software ever made.

I'm sure that a phoenix will rise from the ashes and that it will be open source too. ;)

cofferscuffs

6th June 2005, 12:11

I'm sure that a phoenix will rise from the ashes and that it will be open source too. ;)

it would be nice, but unlikely considering the circumstances :(

Lazza

6th June 2005, 12:18

it would be nice, but unlikely considering the circumstances :(
I'm not so sure myself about that because we need to consider the following:-

Overnight with the demise of DVD Decrypter a lot of software that depended upon it has in effect just been made useless in the long term. Just think about how many tools depend upon it in reality. DVD ReMake, DVD-RB etc, etc, etc, etc .....

Sure Decrypter will still be good for a time yet in the short term with current DVD protection etc and will be good so long as XP SP2 is the current O/S we all use but that won't be such a long time really before all these other softwares require to use a new ripper.

Lazza

6th June 2005, 12:35

Also see setarip's post in this thread, he makes some valid points about the whole situation:- http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51609

I'm sure the Admin here know the answers as to this, maybe they will post on it when ready to.

LoloMc

6th June 2005, 12:40

VIVA the DMCA !!!! VIVA the EUCD !!!! Thanks God to make our lives better everyday.

I hope that Lightning Uk! will not have troubles with the justice.

The only thing I know is that I will never buy anymore anything from "SOme CompaNY"*. And I hope everyone on this forum will do the same.

"SOme CompaNY"* comes from here : http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=139073

Sorry. Usually my English is bad... But I answer here with a lot of emotions... For my fair use rights, and for Lightning Uk!....

stephanV

6th June 2005, 12:41

Sources will definitely not be released.

If you read the explanation of Lightning UK on CDfreaks you'll see that if he helps people with DVDdecrypter in any kind of form it will get him in serious trouble. Holding that in regard, its unlikely he'll be releaing the source code.

Thats too bad for programs that rely so much on it.

cypher_soundz

6th June 2005, 12:44

R.I.P the best damn RIPPER out there ! LONG LIVE LIGHTNING UK! :) Your work will go down in history!
Regards
cyph

Sirber

6th June 2005, 12:44

Sucks.....

A everyday use software :(

buzzqw

6th June 2005, 12:46

nooooo

toooooo baaaddddddddd :scared: :scared:

BHH

tfh

6th June 2005, 13:49

Now please leak the source code online somewhere on an irc chan anything, so that someone ca pick it up an open source it to allow this great piece of software to live no. (Hopefully you are able to or someone else has the source code somewhere and be willing to do it).

How can they force you to abandon that part of you life LUK ?
It's a wonderful world after all .

absinthe

6th June 2005, 14:24

Somewhere out there, at this very moment, there is someone very knowledgeable about DVD encryption and programming who is very pissed off. It's only a matter of time before he releases his own open source decryption program.

I mean, hey, it ain't me ... but trust me, he's out there.

-abs

Mug Funky

6th June 2005, 14:43

the thing that pisses me off is that this program has legitimate uses!

where do you think most of the world's subtitles come from? DVDs! also, a lot of the time audio tracks are simply ripped from a DVD and synced with the video rather than encoded (like when we receive tapes that only have english audio on them, when we paid for english and japanese for example).

DVDdecrypter is one of those programs that made everyone's lives easier. it didn't hurt anybody, and had so many real and legitimate uses (that were actually making money for the stupid goddamn company that shut it down) that it's absolutely goddamn stupid to prevent people from using it.

some company should be boycotted. simple as that. i will never buy a product from these bastards again, and will go out of my way to make sure i don't buy anything so much as affiliated with them.

of course, that doesn't mean much seeing as i routinely have to use their overexpensive, under-capable equipment.

the real irony? we're all going to keep using DVDdecrypter, and nothing can stop that. it's just too useful. all this means is there wont be any updates.

blutach

6th June 2005, 14:52

Do heed his advice and disable the check for update in tools - settings. Your IP addy will undoubtedly be logged. You may even want to set your firewall to kill all calls to *.dvddecrypter.com

ATB LUK! And thanks.

@Mug Funky - mate, they can't do anything about non-ARccOS disks, but folks are gunna have to get cluey about how to make their own PSL files and edit their own IFOs. Luckily we have an active IFO/VOB editor forum here at d9! :)

Regards

blutach

6th June 2005, 14:56

@tfh - it is highly unlikely the source will be released, I would expect. If he had so beforehand, then yes, no-one could stop the proliferation. However, to do that now would make things worse. We can only imagine the size of the threat made by the company, but I bet it's in the 7 figures.

Regards

unskinnyboy

6th June 2005, 15:17

Sad news indeed :(

Any chance the program can be reverse engineered? I am sure deep inside his heart, even LUK! won't mind if someone does that.

Thanks for giving us a tool we cannot live without, LUK!

GitsLM

6th June 2005, 15:57

I only hope that now all other decrypting tools start releasing their source

@LUK Thanks a lot for all the hard work and good luck in the future. Plz keep us updated.

niamh

6th June 2005, 16:22

Ouch! this hurts...a LOT

Hope you don't get into too much trouble Lightning UK,and best of luck :)
/me runs to get a copy of the exe on a mirror before it's too late :D

absinthe

6th June 2005, 16:27

What is it that sets DVD Decrypter apart? I mean, don't other ripping tools do the actual ripping just as well? DVD Decrypter's greatness was in the 'decrypting' (i.e. DeCSS, De-Arcoss, whatever). It seems to me that updating other tools to do the job that Decrypter did shouldn't be too Herculean a task.

Or am I wrong?

I sure will miss the functionality, tho.

-abs

BTW, I'm sure I'm ignorant about something here, but how is it that Slysoft can sell AnyDVD for $, but LUK can't give Decrypter away for free?

McoreD

6th June 2005, 16:28

Bad News!
Is there a way to release the Source?

That's the first thing came to my mind too. If it was open source nobody could have stopped LIGHTNING UK!

Really sad news. :(

SeeMoreDigital

6th June 2005, 16:45

BTW, I'm sure I'm ignorant about something here, but how is it that Slysoft can sell AnyDVD for $, but LUK can't give Decrypter away for free?Different countries have very different views and laws concerning the legality of media "back-up" software!

In the UK it always been is 100% illegal to "back-up" even your audio CD's :eek: So one wonders how and why portable media device's are allowed to be sold here!

That aside, I suspect the "a certain company" LIGHTNING UK has been taken to task by is probably the UK/European arm of Sony... but I'm sure we'll get confirmation of this very soon.

Cheers

Doobie

6th June 2005, 17:44

By changing the structure on recorded DVDs, a decrypting program that will not be updated any more can quickly be made obsolete.

I notice that SmartRipper hasn't been updated since 2001.

dirio49

6th June 2005, 18:47

is this really true?
this was a great program?

dirio49

6th June 2005, 18:50

it is a sad day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( : :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :mad: :mad:

mrslacker

6th June 2005, 19:18

mate, they can't do anything about non-ARccOS disks, but folks are gunna have to get cluey about how to make their own PSL files and edit their own IFOs. Luckily we have an active IFO/VOB editor forum here at d9! :)
And what of this kind of decrypting support? Could L-UK be right when he said this could be the end of en era? This legal business is nerve racking.

Now, I'd like to see support for maually tackling "structure protection", but I'm afraid for Doom9.

The Belgain

6th June 2005, 20:40

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the source code got leaked to be honest. Pretty much impossible to trace back to him as the source, all he has to do is claim that someone else at some point had the source as they were helping him to develop the tool, and they've now released it.

I guess this does show why open-source does have some pretty major advantes... even just having published source (but not open) would have meant that development could now continue on it. Of course that's not to in any way say that he shouldn't have kept it closed-source; it's his program after all.

Thanks for putting all your time into this by the way. Hard break and I hope you don't get into too much trouble for all this...

Morbo

6th June 2005, 20:49

Now how can Anydvd survive?,,,,,,,,,, :rolleyes:

anecd0te

6th June 2005, 21:06

long before DVD Decrypter, vStrip and SmartRipper were my fav decrypting solutions. With the source code for Smart Ripper readily available, I don't see why it can't be brought "up to date" to continue DVD Decrypter's legacy.

fallen to the dark side, young "LUK" has-
strike back, the empire will! :D

tigerman8u

6th June 2005, 21:07

a sad day when a select few are running most of the countries government.

stax76

6th June 2005, 21:25

In the DVB scene decrypting algo's are put in seperate dll's that implement unified interfaces all DVB applications understand. This interfaces are not only be used for decrypting plugins but also for EPG and OSD and other plugins. Maybe this dll concept would also work for DVD ripping applications. Just an idea...

The value EVENTS_CheckForProgramUpdate at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVD Decrypter should be 0 to prevent auto update, 0 means false so it's disabled, do not start the application in order to disable it because then you are already sending your IP address. ;)

castellanos

6th June 2005, 21:36

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
That aside, I suspect the "a certain company" LIGHTNING UK has been taken to task by is probably the UK/European arm of Sony... but I'm sure we'll get confirmation of this very soon.
I agree totally SeeMoreDigital... it's really stupid to try to stop LUK when you have tools like "AnyDVD" or "DVD Region + CSS Free" that actually can handle without problems that kind of protections, whatever they are, free or not...
This company is not going to stop the DVD backup process, stopping only LUK, and as well as I understand, I don't think that is their aim, may be it is something going on in the background... I hope not... or yes? :rolleyes:
Anyway it's very sad. Beautyfull tool... I hope the developement goes on, in this or another ripper.
Thanks LIGHTNING UK!

jsoto

6th June 2005, 21:44

Sad day...
I want to say a big thanks to LUK!
jsoto

[storm-shadow]

6th June 2005, 23:02

All this talk about no more updates, does it really matter? I love DVD Decrypter, I just got into doing rips with H.264 and ReCode. But, the vast amount of DVD Players out there, can they introduce a new copy protection scheme? Wouldn't that make all those hardware players worthless?

On the other hand, Blu-RAY and HD-DVD are not that far off, I doubt DVD Decrypter would have worked for them.

Regardless, I just burned off the latest on CD-R anyway... let see them take that away from us.

Nick

6th June 2005, 23:08

I too would like to echo the sentiments of many and mourn the end of this great piece of software.

I would also like to add my thanks to LUK for his years of efforts.

However, I feel I should add that I consider all this talk of leaking sources onto IRC or talk of reverse engineering his software as terribly inappropriate. I (and I'm sure I speak for you-know-who also) would not want this site/forum to become the focus of undue attention as a result of today's frenzy.

As such, I implore people to heed the following advice:

1) Turn off the "search for updates" feature in DVD Decrypter
2) Configure your firewall to block connections to the web from DVD Decrypter
3) WHEN POSTING HERE, COUNT TO TEN BEFORE HITTING THE "SUBMIT" BUTTON IN ANGER!

Chill out and let the dust settle, folks. We'll all reflect more constructively on the day's events when the red mist passes.

Cheers
Nick

f@chance

6th June 2005, 23:10

Wish you the best LUK. Since we deal here with companies that will not adapt and want to protect an obscene profit margine the release of the software can be easily arranged, just copy it on a portable device and arrange for a break in and have it stolen. Call the cops and file a report for breaking and entry. Job done.

int 21h

6th June 2005, 23:17

']All this talk about no more updates, does it really matter? I love DVD Decrypter, I just got into doing rips with H.264 and ReCode. But, the vast amount of DVD Players out there, can they introduce a new copy protection scheme? Wouldn't that make all those hardware players worthless?

On the other hand, Blu-RAY and HD-DVD are not that far off, I doubt DVD Decrypter would have worked for them.

Regardless, I just burned off the latest on CD-R anyway... let see them take that away from us.

Its not necessarily a new encryption scheme, its a method of organizing the contents of disc to confuse copying efforts while still having a valid disk. For instance, putting a load of bad sectors in the middle of the disc, and then just not ever referencing them anywhere. Players will still play the discs fine.

mrslacker

6th June 2005, 23:19

mrbass

7th June 2005, 00:08

edit: nevermind...I was wrong

mrbass

7th June 2005, 00:10

Its not necessarily a new encryption scheme, its a method of organizing the contents of disc to confuse copying efforts while still having a valid disk. For instance, putting a load of bad sectors in the middle of the disc, and then just not ever referencing them anywhere. Players will still play the discs fine.

Spanglish R1 will not play in my RCA DVD player. The only way I can get it to work is not hit Play but rather choose RANDOM play so it skips to some random section and then hit the MENU button.

cypher_soundz

7th June 2005, 00:52

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DVD Decrypter]
"EVENTS_CheckForProgramUpdate"=dword:00000000

Save code as "anyname.reg" and double click. this will stop auto update.

I was thinking how they found out where to send the letter etc and i realised it must of been the website address. Maybe a lesson to be learned? cjb.net anyone ? ;)
Regards
cyph

hhanh00

7th June 2005, 01:15

"They" offered to not procecute LK if he was showing good faith that he was doing as much as possible to stop DVD Decrypter. Pretending to lose the code somewhere and have it surfaced on the net is not a good way to do so. They already have enough ground to sue him :(. Actually, I hope it won't be leaked for his sake.

--h

dragongodz

7th June 2005, 02:10

a sad day. best wishes go to LUK of course.

this doesnt mean they have really won of course. with things such as anydvd, dvd region free and dvd43 being updated frequently newer protections will be beat anyway. still it would be nice to see someone do some updating to smartripper to bring it up to date aswell, who knows maybe someone will eventually.