anime scripting challenge

[gavo]

hey,

Here are some sample pictures of a anime techo video I just finished for a rave.

http://img225.echo.cx/img225/1646/animematrix6vp.png
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/3383/animematrix32vd.png
http://img225.echo.cx/img225/980/animematrix27sf.png
http://img37.echo.cx/img37/9076/animematrixa35pq.png

Here is a raw unfiltered video sample
http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=04FA8F2CCR5YR275KOGWG5NLP7

Here is my attempt at makeing a script
ConvertToYV12()
VagueDenoiser(threshold=3,method=1,nsteps=6,chromaT=0.8)

Tweak(bright=8, cont=.95, sat=1.5, hue=7, coring=false)
Levels(0, 1.1, 255, 0, 255)
ColorYUV(off_y=-20, gain_y=0)
#ColorYUV(levels="PC->TV")
Undot
LimitedSharpen(Lmode=2)
ConvertToYV12()
awarpsharp


It's going to play of a computer hardrive. So i'm thinking of useing loseless at low compression settings. As mpeg 2 on cce only goes up to 15000 in bitrate. Any suggestions in codec?


-gavo

[Pookie]

I'd encourage you to just to use VirtualDub with the MSU Deblocker 2.1 filter, loaded twice for starters. Also, use the MSU Denoiser set to Medium Fast Motion. Unless you want to learn AviSynth (which is a lot of work, but very rewarding) , you'll get acceptable results with VirtualDub.

http://www.compression.ru/video/deblocking/index_en.html

http://www.compression.ru/video/denoising/index_en.html

http://www.compression.ru/video/smart_contrast/index_en.html

[gavo]

thanx, what type of scirpt would it look like, if I handleing it in avs.

[Mug Funky]

playing off a hard drive means no big limit on bitrate or playback complexity, so why not try x264 at quant 0. it's not completely lossless, though i don't know if that's a decoder or encoder issue (it only ever varies from souce by +- 1/256). it plays back quite fast.

[gavo]

How would I encode x264?

[Pookie]

I tested your sample with various filters. I should have asked you what problems do you want to fix ? There are a lot of macro blocks, but maybe you want that effect. Deblocking will remove some of that, but it will also smooth the video a lot.

[Mug Funky]

How would I encode x264?

there's a VfW codec for it so you can make an avi of it. also there's GUIs for x264 that allow you to ditch avi once and for all... search will tell you all.

but if you've got the speed and the hard disk, huffy is the natural choice. i'm all excited about x264 lossless, but it's not quite there yet (i can't get perfect output yet). mp4 is something quicktime can read, and AVC lossless files are really tiny compared to the other crap quicktime requires.

[bond]

i'm all excited about x264 lossless, but it's not quite there yet (i can't get perfect output yet). mp4 is something quicktime can read, and AVC lossless files are really tiny compared to the other crap quicktime requires.
x264 doesnt support avc lossless encoding and quicktime7 doesnt support avc lossless decoder :(

[berrinam]

x264 doesnt support avc lossless encoding and quicktime7 doesnt support avc lossless decoder :(

So lossless coding uses a different bitstream format, or why is a special lossless decoder required?

[bond]

So lossless coding uses a different bitstream format, or why is a special lossless decoder required?
lossless is part of the avc high profile and qt7 doesnt support high profile, only main profile

its similar to mpeg-4 advanced simple profile (qpel, gmc) vs. simple profile: qt only supports simple profile and therefore isnt able to decode streams using qpel, gmc aso...

[berrinam]

Thanks for the explanation. I was just thinking that it could be possible to have a Main-Profile bitstream which decoded to a lossless copy of the source.

its similar to mpeg-4 advanced simple profile (qpel, gmc) vs. simple profile: qt only supports simple profile and therefore isnt able to decode streams using qpel, gmc aso...
Does this mean lossless coding has extra features when compared to Main Profile encoding?

[bond]

lossless coding doesnt have extra features, it is an extra feature ;)
to make this short: for decoding a lossless avc stream you need a decoder which is able to handle avc lossless streams.

[berrinam]

Ok, so the stream format is different. I'll leave it alone now. Sorry to have interrupted the thread.