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Paulcat
5th June 2005, 22:14
I have an avi file, 640 x 256 that I want to stick on a DVD. The problem is that the aspect ratio for that is 2.5:1 and TMPGEnc will only allow me to make an M2V file of 2.21:1

I have made a test file at 2.21:1 without cropping, and the resulting DVD is not too bad, with the people being ever so slightly elongated. Is there a way to alter the playback of this file to play at 2.50:1 or do I have to re-encode and crop out some of the picture?

Can I edit the M2V file itself or can I use PgcEdit or MuxMan to alter the final DVD files to change this?

(or is there a setting in TMPGEnc where I can custom make the resulting M2V in any aspect ratio I want?)

Paul

Mug Funky
6th June 2005, 01:38
mpeg-2 may support loads of aspect ratios, but DVD only supports 4:3 and 16:9. you'll have to add black borders and encode as 16:9 anamorphic if you want a DVD.

Paulcat
6th June 2005, 13:27
The Lord of the Rings DVD's are 2.21 to 1 and Shawn of the Dead is 2.5 to 1

I am using TMPGEnc which will allow me to encode 2.21 to 1 but no greater AR than that. It also allows a DVD format of 4:3, 16:9 AND 2.21:1. I can crop an image but cannot expand it to add border, at least not in any settings I can find.

[EDIT]

Instead of selecting full screen (keep AR) in the display options, I can select the no border option, or the custom size option. I assume the custom size will allow a 720 x 288 M2V file (2.5 to 1 AR) but I don't know how that will look or whether MuxMan will allow it. More later after some tests...

Paulcat
7th June 2005, 15:07
The latest test was cropping the original avi to 2.35:1, setting the source AR as 2.21:1 (slightly squashing the picture), setting the encode method to no border and the DVD type as 2.21:1.

MuxMan flat out refused to mux the video (error sd ar or something, eg the aspect ratio was off). TMPGEnc DVD Author muxed it fine, but playback was 16:9, horribly mangling the picture.

The M2V file played back at the correct AR, but there must be a flag in the file that it is meant for a 2.21 DVD which messed up MuxMan.

All I want to do is encode this AVI without wasting bits on encoding the black borders, or as little of them as possible.

Some more help please...

mpucoder
7th June 2005, 15:28
DVD is a subset of mpeg, it does not support or allow everything that can be done in mpeg. Among the things not allowed is DAR other than 4:3 or 16:9. There are also only 4 resolutions allowable, 720x480, 704x480, 352x480, and 352x240 (for PAL replace 480 with 576, and 240 with 288 for vertical size).
In order to make a DVD from video other than one of the two DAR's is to resize and border (ie letterbox) the video to fit the closer DAR. So if you want to create a 2.21:1 you need to resize it to be in aspect at 16:9 (1.77:1). That means vertically rescaling to 1.77/2.21, which is very nearly 4/5 or 720x384 for NTSC. Then center the image on a 720x480 canvas (ie add 48 lines of black above and below).