Editing Menus -> Buttons 'Highlight'

[Kitt0s]

hi all, im new here.. whats up ?:P
my question is, when you edit a menu, and add a new button - how do you make that button 'highlighted' when you select it, like the other buttons has an underline or a litle box beside them.. is this possible at all?

thanks in advance, Kitt0s.

[Doogs]

hi... what DVD authoring software are you using??? this will assist others users in helping you out..

[Kitt0s]

well, for adding the button i'v been using PGCEdit. i also have MenuEdit.. but pgcedit works better for me..

[sweetness]

you can read this post Creating Menu Buttons, What Am I Missing? (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=93294) to give you an idea.
basically you have to demux the cell(video, audio and subs), edit the subs(the bmp for the.sst file) then remux, fix with pgcedit,replace with vobblanker.

[Kitt0s]

hmmmm.. don't think you got me..
i DID add the subtitles already, i DID edit the menu (edited the bmp then make it m2v then vob) and it DOES work, the only problem is that when i click the NEW BUTTON i'v added, it doesn't has the 'highlight' that the other buttons has (buttons has undrline or a litle box or just changes the button color when you select it)

hope you got me this time..

[sweetness]

does the subs have the new highlight, the undrline or a litle box?
is the new button you made over the highlights?

look at this guide. Editing a MENU in a Already Authored DVD (http://www.dvdguides.netgeekhosting.com/guides/edit_menu/)
at the point where you demux with pgcdemux use subrip to rip the subs as .sst file. this will make a .sst file and bmp. edit the bmp so there is a new highlight.
then continue with the rest of the guide, with muxing with muxman.

[Kitt0s]

ok hear me out.
things i did:
converted str to sup
demuxed the DVD
remuxed (or whatever it called) the DVD with the new sup
edited IFO for the new subtitle
demuxed the menu (VTS_01_0) made it bmp -> added my new button -> made it m2v -> made it .VOB again.
joined the cells into one .vob (vts_01_0)
edited back the ifo with ifoedit (something eith menu extras and get vts something)
and added the new button 'area' of selection and cmd with pgcedit.

NOW.. after i'v done that, i'v opened my new edited DVD, went to the SUBTITLE MENU, BUT! when i came over the OLD buttons (THE ONES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE) they were 'highlighed'\had a litle box near them, BUT when i came to the NEW button there were no such thing..

so here is my question once again, how do i make that button highlight like the other buttons?? you know like when you put the mouse or something over them they become red or white or whatever?
and another question: could DVDMaestro work for me?

[Msc_Alex]

You could give this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=648099#post648099) a try

[Kitt0s]

you mean this? (http://www.forum.doom9.nl/viewtopic.php?t=2620) could be great if some dutch men could translate it :D :D :p

[sesko]

i tried this but it not work allways, and you have to change colours of subpicture in adobephotoshop or it wont highlight properly

[sweetness]

yes everything you did is right. but the highlights ARE in the subtitles.
demuxed the menu (VTS_01_0) made it bmp -> added my new button -> made it m2v -> made it .VOB again
you also have to add a new button in the subs for the highlight look here:
original sub bmp (http://dvdguides.netgeekhosting.com/guides/test/original.bmp)
added button highlight to subs (http://dvdguides.netgeekhosting.com/guides/test/add_new_button.bmp)

[Kitt0s]

nah dude... there must be a way! i know pepole did it ! just dunno how or who :P

[Kitt0s]

how dude? i mean how do i get the origial one?

[sweetness]

rip with subrip (http://zuggy.wz.cz/) and have it Save SubPictures as BMP. once it made all the bmp go to file(in the pop window) and save as .sst file. this is a text file about the subs.

[Kitt0s]

what subs? this topic isn't about subs, its about editing the menu..
realy don't think you ppl got what i wanted :P
lets say there is a DVD -> menu ok? now you gonna select the subtitle menu, you did so, (assuming your using a dvd player on pc) you put the mouse over a button witch has the text 'ENGLISH' when you do so (put the mouse over it), it gets BLUE (its was RED before), but when you click it it becomes PINK..
thats what I want to do but with an existing menu, just add a NEW button..

[mpucoder]

There are three layers to a menu:
The video layer is the underlying full color graphics
A subpicture of 4 colors
The highlight layer.

The subpicture is used for two things, the most important is to define the graphics of the buttons. The highlight layer, among other things, defines a rectangle for each button, but it is the subpicture that supplies the color and shape information. Pixels within the rectangle change color according to information in the highlight layer when selected or activated.

[Zeul]

if you have scenarist, then use numenu4u. Just set the scenarist option to import only, and under settings -> use original assets. This will deconstruct your menu completely, and create a script file that scenarist will use to rebuild it. Now once in scenarist, you can see everything you want to, add new buttons, remove the base BMP layer and replace it with a custom one... whatever.
Don't forget you need a BMP as your base layer, then add an overlay (which is the highlight layer) in scenarist. When a button is accessed (pressed or hovered over), whatever is beneath this button is shown in the new color scheme.
Once completed and compiled in scenarist, if you press the .bat file that numenu4u made for you, then it will update the origianl IFOs with your new information, and move the new menu files into the main VIDEO_TS folder. Once there you can test your new menu with any software player.

[Kitt0s]

ok Zeul, i think its getting a bit clear..

searched for a tutroial for scenarist\numenu4u.. anywere i could get it?

[jel]

there is a list of all relevant guides for numenu (and the 'big 3' tools) avaliable here: big 3 guide list (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=479538#post479538) - although it is getting little out of date now ....

there are also other scneraist guides avaliable from the doom9 guide section:
document overview (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/doc-overview.htm) - scroll to the DVD+/- related docs.

cheers
j

[Kitt0s]

ok so i get it that there is a subpicture that is used to highlight the buttons, but i still don't get how, and these guides are not very helpful.

[Kitt0s]

ok so I used SubRip to make all those .bmps, now what? lets say i edit them, how to make them back into a sup?!?

[Nemesis7]

Thats where I am now. I used the "Editing a MENU in a Already Authored DVD" guide. But there is of course a problem: When I have remuxed the menu file with the overlay back into the original vob (with VobBlanker), I add the buttons in pgcedit... and i still cant see the overlayed subpics. I even did this:
- i demuxed the .sup files from the original menu, with the original background
- remuxed these with Muxman
- inserted it in the orignal vobfile with VobBlanker
- restored (imported) the original buttons/menu in PgcEdit, and STILL no subpics :scared:

First I tried to make the menu with dvdmaestro then import it in menuedit, but the same crap, no subpics or the shape and color was messed up.

So can some1 please tell me how to edit the highlight subpicture (the sup file) or how can I get a WORKING bmp -> sup coversion (i tried the dvdsuptools also), and then remux that in the original menu. It can't be that hard, many people are doing this. I hope the doom9 guru's can help me/us.

Thnx in advance.

@Kitt0s: try the "Editing a MENU in a Already Authored DVD" guide mate, it will get you a long way, and just read the instructions.

[orbsplateau]

I have a similar question.

but I'll post it in a new thread.

[Nemesis7]

The reason that NOTHING was showing was that the original dvd used 0x21 instead of 0x20, so i added 2 identical .sup files with muxman, now it only shows ALL the subpics briefly, and with an other color when i click something. (i imported the original color schemes and menu with pgcedit). What to do? please help.

UPDATE: Now the colors are okay, BUT the subpics show when i click em for like 300 ms or something. Something is wrong with Muxman, when i decode the sup, its gives me the txt and bmp file, then i edit the bmp and remux it, then DEmux it again, i get a diffrent txt file than the one i put in, 'alpha' is changed... but that can be fixed manually (in my case the alpha should have been 0000 instead of FFF0)

UPDATE2: I finally got it!! Muxman was fucking it all up. the number of frames is set to 0-1000 now (in the txt file) and it works! (but not for too long, there should be some function to make sure it doesnt time out) Halleluya!

[Kitt0s]

thats sounds great Nemesis! so did you follow the "Editing a MENU in a Already Authored DVD" and thats it? or were there any other steps along the way?

[Nemesis7]

Hey mate. indeed follow the guide. BUT the Muxman part, do it combined with what I said, just give it a try I will try to help. Good luck!

[Kitt0s]

hi man, i think you didn't get what this topic is all about, i know how to add the button, i just don't know how to make the highlight work (witch means edit the .sup files, witch i don't know how!)

and another question, how come when i load an authored DVD (VTS_0x_x.VOB's) i get this error: "Error loading NAV pack from '......VTS_03_1.VOB' @ sector 6 (in file): VOB file is CSS encoded. Rip again with DVD Decrypter.

[mpucoder]

.sup files are described here (http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/subpform.html)
They DO NOT contain highlight information, just subpicture. Perhaps this is why you can't get the buttons to work.

btw, please watch your language, we like to keep this forum family friendly.

And there is nothing wrong at all with the way MuxMan uses .sup files, but these files have to be extracted/created properly to work right. They are, essentially, precompiled binaries.

[Kitt0s]

ok so if they do not contain the highlight info then who does?

and btw, don't realy get were i didn't watched my lang, but sry anyway :P

[mpucoder]

Not you, Nemesis7 needs to be more careful with word choice.

Currently there is no simple file for highlights as there is for subpictures. Programs like Scenaid and NuMenu4U (part of big3 method) place the highlight information in .scp or .mxp script files for the authoring program.

[Nemesis7]

Hey mate, I'm truly sorry if I offended you in any way.
It was a quick reply and I was pretty frustrated because it didn't work the way I wanted. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for the muxman application.
And now I read my post, it isnt the muxman app that was 'messing' things up but the dvdsup tools! Oh man, I'm sorry, but I just meant the dvdsup tools. My bad.

[mpucoder]

No problem. I've felt that way at times myself.