Atamido
28th May 2005, 05:42
I just had this discussion with a friend of mine and I was wondering about people's opinions here. URLs changed to protect the stupid, name changed to protect the goofey.
[18:01] Joe: You want a free 27" flat screen TV .. sony trinitron.. brand new.. dont you
[18:02] Joe: or a 17-19" lcd monitor
[18:02] Joe: http://www.******.com/?r=18561165
[18:03] Joe: well.. not completely free.. since you gatta since up for a service, like Blockbuster movie rentals.. for 10$
[18:03] Joe: but you can cancel after the first month
[18:03] Joe: so 10$.. not a bad deal for a brand new tv or monitor
[20:06] Pamel: I'll believe it when I see it.
[20:06] Joe: I am currently away from the computer.
[22:26] Joe: Its true.. not exactly free.. but 10$
[22:27] Joe: I have friends that have gotten mac mini's psp's and ipods all from the same place.. the same way
[22:28] Joe: All you have to do, is sign up for one of their sponsers and get 8 people to sign up as well. I think most of them only cost like 10$ to sign up, at least blockbuster does.. and you can cancel after the first month..
[22:28] Joe: then they ship it out to you..
[22:29] Joe: so if you want to sign up for a monitor or tv, sign up through my referral number, so I can get credit.. then you can get 8 people to sign up and get yourself a free one
[22:31] Joe: I got one friend that has gotten an ipod, a laptop, and now is getting the monitor
[22:32] Joe: I was pretty skeptic too..
[22:32] Joe: till I saw them with their items in hand
[23:07] Pamel: So really those items cost $10 minimum.
[23:07] Joe: pretty much
[23:07] Joe: nothin in the world is free
[23:07] Pamel: Well, $90 actually.
[23:07] Joe: well, no
[23:07] Joe: only if you pay for your referrals
[23:07] Joe: 90$ max
[23:08] Pamel: Unless there's a problem cancelling.
[23:08] Joe: even at 90$ max, still a good deal
[23:08] Joe: My friend told me that no one had problems cancelling
[23:08] Pamel: No, $90 minimum.
[23:09] Joe: the sign up companies, are places like blockbuster.. netflix, things like that
[23:09] Joe: why 90 min
[23:09] Pamel: Because you can't get any item without spending at least $10.
[23:09] Joe: ? you lost me
[23:10] Joe: it doesnt cost YOU 90
[23:10] Pamel: Switch $10 with $90.
[23:10] Joe: total, yes
[23:10] Pamel: $90 will be coming out of people's pockets.
[23:10] Joe: yes
[23:11] Pamel: And realistically, about 1 in 10 people will actually get an item for the $10 they put in.
[23:11] Joe: if they dont get 8 referrals, they wont get the item
[23:11] Pamel: Because not everyone can CAN get 8 referrals, it's impossible.
[23:11] Joe: some people just put in their 10$ and dont do anything else with it
[23:12] Joe: paste your link on a few message boards or blogs
[23:12] Pamel: There is a finite number of people out there.
[23:12] Joe: if you contact everyone on the planet, yes
[23:12] Pamel: Basically, 80% of people doing this are garaunteed to get screwed from their $10.
[23:13] Joe: I dont see that
[23:13] Pamel: We don't even need to contact everyone on the planet, we can assume there are only a limited number of people on the planet that would possibly sign up for this.
[23:13] Joe: everyone that I know who has participated in this, has gotten their 8 referrals and received their item
[23:14] Pamel: For the sake of simplicity, lets say there are 73 total people that would sign up for this.
[23:14] Pamel: 1 guy does it originally and gets his 8 referals.
[23:15] Pamel: Those 8 people all do it and get their 8 referals, or 64 total secondary referals.
[23:15] Joe: ok
[23:15] Pamel: 1 + 8 + 64 is 73.
[23:15] Pamel: 64 people just got screwed.
[23:15] Joe: why
[23:15] Joe: why cant they sign up
[23:15] Joe: and get 8 referrals
[23:15] Pamel: Because you just hit market capacity.
[23:16] Pamel: This is just an example with less numbers.
[23:16] Pamel: The numbers are identical when scaled up.
[23:16] Joe: better get in before market capacity then
[23:16] Joe: =)
[23:16] Pamel: 64 out of 73 is about 88%.
[23:17] Joe: I know some people that have signed up with no interest in getting the item, just in helping the guy out with his referrals
[23:17] Pamel: This is what we call a "pyramid scheme"
[23:17] Joe: its not a money making pyramid scheme
[23:17] Pamel: Utah is the capital of pyramid schemes.
[23:17] Joe: yes
[23:17] Pamel: Congradulations.
[23:17] Joe: but its ok
[23:17] Pamel: It's not "money making", it's "product getting".
[23:17] Joe: cause you want a monitor for 10$
[23:18] Joe: http://www.******.com/?r=18561165
[23:18] Pamel: Why would I donate $10 to you so you can get a flat screen?
[23:18] Pamel: Would you donate $10 to me?
[23:18] Joe: cause you want one too
[23:18] Pamel: Let's just donate to each other and get one.
[23:19] Pamel: If you really want one, sign up all 9 accounts.
[23:19] Joe: they wont let you... 1 per household..
[23:19] Joe: they want legitiment referrals to their supporters
[18:01] Joe: You want a free 27" flat screen TV .. sony trinitron.. brand new.. dont you
[18:02] Joe: or a 17-19" lcd monitor
[18:02] Joe: http://www.******.com/?r=18561165
[18:03] Joe: well.. not completely free.. since you gatta since up for a service, like Blockbuster movie rentals.. for 10$
[18:03] Joe: but you can cancel after the first month
[18:03] Joe: so 10$.. not a bad deal for a brand new tv or monitor
[20:06] Pamel: I'll believe it when I see it.
[20:06] Joe: I am currently away from the computer.
[22:26] Joe: Its true.. not exactly free.. but 10$
[22:27] Joe: I have friends that have gotten mac mini's psp's and ipods all from the same place.. the same way
[22:28] Joe: All you have to do, is sign up for one of their sponsers and get 8 people to sign up as well. I think most of them only cost like 10$ to sign up, at least blockbuster does.. and you can cancel after the first month..
[22:28] Joe: then they ship it out to you..
[22:29] Joe: so if you want to sign up for a monitor or tv, sign up through my referral number, so I can get credit.. then you can get 8 people to sign up and get yourself a free one
[22:31] Joe: I got one friend that has gotten an ipod, a laptop, and now is getting the monitor
[22:32] Joe: I was pretty skeptic too..
[22:32] Joe: till I saw them with their items in hand
[23:07] Pamel: So really those items cost $10 minimum.
[23:07] Joe: pretty much
[23:07] Joe: nothin in the world is free
[23:07] Pamel: Well, $90 actually.
[23:07] Joe: well, no
[23:07] Joe: only if you pay for your referrals
[23:07] Joe: 90$ max
[23:08] Pamel: Unless there's a problem cancelling.
[23:08] Joe: even at 90$ max, still a good deal
[23:08] Joe: My friend told me that no one had problems cancelling
[23:08] Pamel: No, $90 minimum.
[23:09] Joe: the sign up companies, are places like blockbuster.. netflix, things like that
[23:09] Joe: why 90 min
[23:09] Pamel: Because you can't get any item without spending at least $10.
[23:09] Joe: ? you lost me
[23:10] Joe: it doesnt cost YOU 90
[23:10] Pamel: Switch $10 with $90.
[23:10] Joe: total, yes
[23:10] Pamel: $90 will be coming out of people's pockets.
[23:10] Joe: yes
[23:11] Pamel: And realistically, about 1 in 10 people will actually get an item for the $10 they put in.
[23:11] Joe: if they dont get 8 referrals, they wont get the item
[23:11] Pamel: Because not everyone can CAN get 8 referrals, it's impossible.
[23:11] Joe: some people just put in their 10$ and dont do anything else with it
[23:12] Joe: paste your link on a few message boards or blogs
[23:12] Pamel: There is a finite number of people out there.
[23:12] Joe: if you contact everyone on the planet, yes
[23:12] Pamel: Basically, 80% of people doing this are garaunteed to get screwed from their $10.
[23:13] Joe: I dont see that
[23:13] Pamel: We don't even need to contact everyone on the planet, we can assume there are only a limited number of people on the planet that would possibly sign up for this.
[23:13] Joe: everyone that I know who has participated in this, has gotten their 8 referrals and received their item
[23:14] Pamel: For the sake of simplicity, lets say there are 73 total people that would sign up for this.
[23:14] Pamel: 1 guy does it originally and gets his 8 referals.
[23:15] Pamel: Those 8 people all do it and get their 8 referals, or 64 total secondary referals.
[23:15] Joe: ok
[23:15] Pamel: 1 + 8 + 64 is 73.
[23:15] Pamel: 64 people just got screwed.
[23:15] Joe: why
[23:15] Joe: why cant they sign up
[23:15] Joe: and get 8 referrals
[23:15] Pamel: Because you just hit market capacity.
[23:16] Pamel: This is just an example with less numbers.
[23:16] Pamel: The numbers are identical when scaled up.
[23:16] Joe: better get in before market capacity then
[23:16] Joe: =)
[23:16] Pamel: 64 out of 73 is about 88%.
[23:17] Joe: I know some people that have signed up with no interest in getting the item, just in helping the guy out with his referrals
[23:17] Pamel: This is what we call a "pyramid scheme"
[23:17] Joe: its not a money making pyramid scheme
[23:17] Pamel: Utah is the capital of pyramid schemes.
[23:17] Joe: yes
[23:17] Pamel: Congradulations.
[23:17] Joe: but its ok
[23:17] Pamel: It's not "money making", it's "product getting".
[23:17] Joe: cause you want a monitor for 10$
[23:18] Joe: http://www.******.com/?r=18561165
[23:18] Pamel: Why would I donate $10 to you so you can get a flat screen?
[23:18] Pamel: Would you donate $10 to me?
[23:18] Joe: cause you want one too
[23:18] Pamel: Let's just donate to each other and get one.
[23:19] Pamel: If you really want one, sign up all 9 accounts.
[23:19] Joe: they wont let you... 1 per household..
[23:19] Joe: they want legitiment referrals to their supporters