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movmasty
24th May 2005, 07:19
Why do most free software doesnt have a version for Linux?

E.G. Virtual Dub....

We know that games and video editing are the weakness of Linux,

Shall we be forever enchained to m$??????????????????? :(

I dont want this crappy windozze on my pc anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!

unskinnyboy
24th May 2005, 07:41
Because almost always, the codebase won't be compatible across platforms and considerable changes would have to be made before they are truly portable. Implementation in Linux and Windows are very different.

Reg: your example of VirtualDub, these (http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=39) are Avery Lee's issues and obstacles in porting the codebase to Linux. One can easily empathize with him.

If your aim is to rip & transode DVDs, have a look here (http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/single/index.html).

P.S: I think you need to have a better title for your thread. 'One Important Question(VERY important)' seems to be designed for needless attention grabbing.

movmasty
24th May 2005, 07:57
Originally posted by unskinnyboy
Because almost always, the codebase won't be compatible across platforms and considerable changes would have to be made before they are truly portable. Implementation in Linux and Windows are very different.
Reg: your example of VirtualDub, these (http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=39) are Avery Lee's issues and obstacles in porting the codebase to Linux. One can easily empathize with him.

If your aim is to rip & transode DVDs, have a look here (http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/single/index.html).

P.S: I think you need to have a better title for your thread. 'One Important Question(VERY important)' seems to be designed for needless attention grabbing.
Doesnt "seems" IT IS!

The question is of basic importance, *seems* that the opens/free community is working for billy...

Why didnt all started from Linux and THEN discussing the obstacles in porting the codebase to Windoze :confused:

The begin could have been harder, but now us all were making our encodes on a free copy of linux.....see THIS (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=de1491ac-0ab6-4990-943d-627e6ade9fcb&displaylang=en)
you got to validate for a file of 163kb!


:angry:

Doom9
24th May 2005, 08:47
This isn't the place for political discussions (OS wars are very much political). The road you're trying to go down is suited for Slashdot, not this place, so this is your one chance to stop it before I have to pull the handbrake.

stephanV
24th May 2005, 09:12
Originally posted by movmasty
Why didnt all started from Linux and THEN discussing the obstacles in porting the codebase to Windoze :confused:

And why should they? For YOUR convenience? So actually you want other people to spend more of their free time in something so you have to spend less money/time.

That's backwards.

If you don't want windows anymore, learn to code and port VirtualDub to Linux. And goodluck.

(For me this isnt even so much about an OS war: just some person who's being ungrateful again for free tools and thinks he's in the position to tell developers what to do.)

movmasty
24th May 2005, 11:10
Originally posted by stephanV
And why should they?
I can think of one reason at least, that one OS is open source too....

stephanV
24th May 2005, 11:23
[edit]post removed...

it seems (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94021) I was dealing with a frustrated Linux user who thinks MS is the root of all evil (so Doom9 was right)

Not interested in that sort of discussion. I couldn't care less if people use Windows, Linux or a Mac. But if you wanna be 1337 then don't complain afterwards that your OS hasn't got the tools you actually need.

shevegen
24th May 2005, 12:47
I am not sure in how valid your statements are in the light of transcode and MPlayer usage of today. I dont think the IRC channel of MPlayer can complain about a lack of users, both Windows + Linux like.

All the necessary tools to get the job done already exist and are free for you to use, and mostly free to modify too (depending on the license, but since most are GPL or BSD-like, LGPL there shouldnt be a problem if you want to spend time improving aspects here and there).


Life is measured in decades, not in momentary glimpses of frustration.

knowledge is the key :>

Koepi
24th May 2005, 13:21
I'd call some tools even more mighty than the windows-ones. Especially mplayer/mencoder, transcode,... They all force you to not just think in point-and-click. Anyhow there are even some GUIs existing for those programs.

Complaining about the lack of "ported windows software" is like complaining that you DIY-car isn't as comfortable as a mrecedes. Think about it "you get what you paid for".

(And I like to pay nothing for an OS. Well, the OS itself. I already paid in my education, which isn't necessary in windows. So that argument counts.)

Anyhow, this is just a trolling-trial, it's an OS-war. We don't need that, everybody with a little knowledge and sanity and reason just uses what he/she needs.

I vote for closing this thread as it leads to nothing like _every_ OS-war-related thread does.

Cheers
Koepi

Wilbert
24th May 2005, 13:51
I vote for closing this thread as it leads to nothing like _every_ OS-war-related thread does.
Agreed.