Toughest DVDs for Rebuilder/CCE

[mrwhitethc]

Just wondering what everyones toughest encodes were, where the bitrate got really low, and what solutions they came up with. So far for me Taken and the gamut of HBO material have had to be given the UnDot().Deen() treatment. Right now I'm working on Me, Myself and Irene which has seem to have specials in the menu vobs and numenu seems to be flaking out on me at the moment.

[Carpo]

have u tried ()cnr2 ?

supposed to do the same as ()deen and to be a bit faster

(dont have link right now but google for it and you will find it :))

[Video Dude]

Actually, CNR2() and Deen() are for different purposes.

CNR2 is a temporal denoiser that works in the chroma space. It is useful for analog captures that have chroma noise or rainbows.

Deen is a spatial temporal (3d and 2d convolution) denoiser.

[dragongodz]

of course there are a wide variety of denoisers.

a good place to start reading, to help you decide what may be worth testing, is here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51181

and you can find some other newer ones not listed in that thread here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84481

[Zeul]

@mrwhitethc
Please post any specific problems related to numenu4u in the numenu4u forum. Please advise of the actual error msg if numenu blew up, or if not the navigational error etc etc....
Sending me the frameserving folder, subtitle folder and all the original IFOs, logs and the new IFOs (if there are any) will help me.

[mrwhitethc]

@Zeul, will do once I get my machine back up and running, things were getting really bad so I reformated, I'll let you know if it happens again and post in the correct forum.

@dragongodz, thanks now I have another 4 months of reading :D

My main purpose for this thread was to find out what different filters members use when they get a tough movie instead of just splitting to 2 discs. I've been coming across a few packed, +7gb discs, that don't have much to lose sans an audio track or 2. I'm not looking to just denoise since most of these huge discs seem fairly clean already. So far the avg bitrate i'm seeing with these movies are 2300-2800 with a high of 4000-5000. I've been considering messing around with the bias as seen here
http://www.trilight.com/dvdguides/flowchartguide/BiasAnalysis.htm

but my PC is still returning to normal. Hope this makes everything clearer and if it's in the wrong forum or just a bad thread sorry about that atleast I have more plugins to test thanks to dragongodz.

[arsmori]

The toughest I remember was Paramount R1 release of Is Paris Burning?. The source print was dirty and their encode looked almost posterized. Since it's a 3hrs movie and not really a memorable one at that, I decided it would require too much will to change discs, so splitting was out. 'RemoveGrain().FluxSmoothT()' was the answer. Personally, I like the "boiling sand" grain of B&W prints, but this was just impossible to re-encode into a DVD5 as is. That's the only instance I used filters on a commercial DVD re-encode. I did Warner R1 Day for Night last week and even if the DVD was anamorphic, the source was obviously some analog telecine tape. It was pretty ugly, rainbows, wobbling and all, but as usual I steered clear of filters. It came out indistinguishable from the source, no better, no worse.

[mrwhitethc]

@arsmori: Thanks for the post, I'll check out Is Paris Burning? so I can see the problems you're talking about. As for Day for Night I know what you mean I've seen some pretty bad ones, can't think of any off the top of my head, sometimes I wonder if they really just rented the most used copy they could find and transfered that to DVD :)

Keep'em coming people I know there has to be more movies that begged to be filtered because the output or input was so bad.

[jdobbs]

...sometimes I wonder if they really just rented the most used copy they could find and transfered that to DVD Amazing isn't it? Then 6 months later they might release a better copy as "enhanced version". :rolleyes: Wait another 6 months and it will include a video of how they ran some filters on the original and call it the "Collectors Edition"

[mrwhitethc]

Hrm seems everyone is scared of admitting they filter a movie every so-often, somehow I don't think it's going to get you a black mark if you post that you did, but then again maybe we should make this thread private since some members seem pretty hardcore about you must never filter. :)

Has anyone else noticed in the first season of the Soprano's there's color shifting, not sure if that is the correct term, which seems to be most noticable in the very first episode when Tony is in the psych office. The white walls seem to be forever moving with activity. If you go frame by frame you can't see it but it's there when played back, also the wood on the walls seems to be dancing blocks.

@jdobbs:
I always wonder about this myself and am pretty standoff-ish about buying DVD's that are just barebones sans a featurette or 2. I think it hurts more than it helps because just how many special editions and re-issues do we need of Halloween, Evil Dead or The Howling.