Corrupt Menus - Dvdlab / Dvdworkshop 2

[Lorek]

Hello, I've been having trouble getting DVD's i've made to play in standalone players. I know that older players can't read DVD+/-R DVD's however this isn't a problem for me. My backup DVD's work fine but when i'm trying to create my own DVD's from scratch everything works smoothly on a computer prior to burn, but the burn won't play in standalones. I've tried just about everything I can think of now and I'm not sure where to go from here.

EDIT: I've Tried creating a home made dvd now with DVDLab as well and it won't run in my brand new standalone dvd player. Same Problem.

This is the basic structure of the disc:
Firstplay -> Motion Menu -> Still Menu -> Text Button Link-> 3 Seperate Video Files

All of the video files have been encoded in .m2v 720x480 5000KBPS format with the audio .wav LPCM sampled at 48000hz approx 1500ishKBPS.

I've tried removing the motion menu, it still didn't work in the player.
I've also tested that the player plays backup dvd's, and it does with no problems. So the problem lies within my homemade menu/video

[Lorek]

I think I may have found the problem. I'm not sure
how to fix it though.

The project that I created in Ulead DVD Workshop 2
would play perfectly on a PC but not on a standalone.

The same occured in DVD Lab. I opened up the files
created by UDVDW2 with Dvd Shrink and noticed that
my menus were wierd.

In DVD Shrink,

The Workshop Project Structure

DVD
-Menus
--Title Menus
---Unspecified
----Menu5
-Main Movie
--title1
--title2
--title3
-Extras
--theme
--credits

DVD Lab

DVD
-Menus
--Title Menus
---English
----Menu 1 (no such menu in authoring displays as black, white and gray vertical bars) .04mb duration 0.0
--VTS 1
---English
----Menu 2 (motion menu)
----Menu 3 (still menu)
-Main Movie
--title 1
--title 2
--title 3
-Extras
--theme
--credits


As far as I can see from within the authoring program, the menu's look completely normal, but after its compiled it appears to be messed up.

[Lorek]

DVD Shrink - DVDLab Project
Is there anyone that might know how to fix this?

DVD Shrink View
http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=476297

Connection Manager in DVDLab
http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=476346

[maa]

There is nothing to fix.

You are using DVDLab standard ?

The Title menu is in Video_ts.vob and is just a Gradient.
You must understand that a "menu" is somewhere to put pictures or motion AND somewhere to put commands. Its not necessary to have both in a "Menu"

DVD Lab places your Root menu content in "Menu 2" as seen in Ifoedit or Shrink. This is by design and not an error even if it seems confusing. The fact that your menus don't work has another cause - quite often its due to the encoding when these things go wrong.
I use DVDLab a lot and it is realy good. You may find it will compile non standard material though and thats what I'd check for next.....
cheers

maa

[Lorek]

I get the same end result with both standard and pro. Am I doing something wrong when I setup this project? All of the video content was originally 480x480 which i reencoded to 720x480 with avisynth and tmpg. Why is DVDLab inserting an extra menu? The title menu should be the root menu (motion menu) that I made but for some reason its not compiling right. I've had a decent amount of experience using avisynth, capturing video, and tmpg and just started learning about how to make my own home made menus / dvd's when I hit up against this seemingly insurmountable problem.

How should I go about changing my project so the root menu is the title menu for the dvd?

[maa]

Originally posted by Lorek
How should I go about changing my project so the root menu is the title menu for the dvd? [/B]Well in DVD Lab standard you can't. Menu 1 is in VTS_01_0.vob and is actually the command only menu. Menu 2 being what DVDLab calls menu 1 (root).
These are not errors but just the way DVDLab is programmed. It wouldn't bother anyone who didn't look "under the bonnet" like you have.
It is certainly not the reason for the malfunctioning you are experiencing.

I would try analyzing bit by bit:
First just a movie on an RW to see if all is well (use your menu mpgs)
Then a simple menu using a still

If all is well go on to a basic motion menu and so on.....
Sooner or later you'll find what it is your Standalone doesn't like.
cheers

Maa

[Lorek]

Can it be done in DVDLab Pro?

[maa]

Sure - doesn't matter which version - just that you test step by step untill you find the culprit.

cheers
maa

[Lorek]

I've tested it to death practically I just have one more test that I haven't done.

Basically I've done quite a few tests today.


DVD-RW
Movie
Movie-> Menu
Menu->Movie
First Play-> VGM Menu -> Still Menu -> Multi Movies

All played perfectly. Burned at 4x.

DVD+R media I was using before I only tested Full Movie vs -RW
DVD+R didn't play. Changed Booktype to DVD-Rom, didn't play. However the burns were done using 8x instead of 4x and that's the only difference. I haven't tested burning at 4x yet as I've spent most of the day already on this and am taking a break.


Turns out it was the media. Was burning an OPTODISC brand DVD+R at 8x, everything worked fine when i burned identical copy to a DVD+RW

[Johan308gts]

I was looking for someone with the same problem I have and this came up.
I get those vertical bars too, and I'm currently going back to retrace what I've done.
I still don't think the answers from maa were very helpful, but hopefully I'll find it.
The video_ts.vob displays those bars instead of the menu texts so I think there's a problem with the compiling.

[maa]

Hi - thats a really old thread but I was mailed by the system.
These days PGCedit is the tool to study the command structure.

Which DVD Lab version are you using ?

[kikatu]

I get those vertical bars too, and I'm currently going back to retrace what I've done.

Hi, Johan I had seen the same compiling with DVD-Lab Pro, showing as an uncalled VMGM PGC, even if we don't create a menu. But it (vertical lines) has never been an issue corrupting the VMGM structure, only useless.

Here (http://ifile.it/m5by470) is an example of the above!

Also can you tell us which structure was used to create the menu(s), VTS Root Menus or VMG Menus?

You can also contact the developer(s):

http://www.mediachance.com/contact.htm
http://www.mmbforums.com

Take care!

[Johan308gts]

Hi and thanks for both of you answering me that quick.
I'm impressed!

i use DVD-lab Pro 2.0, and in troubleshooting I've tried different structures, including no menus at all.
The columns still remain.
I started out with VTS root menus, and they're unusually simple.
i usually put slideshows in our travelvideos, but this one is just Movie and Chapters, no motion or music.
Only background and two menu buttons for the Main, and 9 buttons plus back button for the Chapters menu.

[kikatu]

Hi Johan, if doesn't show up while playing the DVD, no worries... On the custom side, we can always use PgcEdit or VobBlanker to modifying the structure a bit! ;)

Have a good one!

[Johan308gts]

Thanks, I'll try and see what I can do with those programs.
i guess I'll probably need help after I start with that, but in the meantime I'm grategul for your help and happy cheers.

Have a great one you too.