muxing raw mpeg-1/2 video with mp4box possible?

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
EDIT: Shame... Mpeg2 muxing into .MP4 does not work either :(
did you try with vob file ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
did you try with vob file ? No... just an elementary Mpeg2 (.M2V) stream!


EDIT: Chapter creation and naming appears to work very well: -

http://img95.echo.cx/img95/9194/chapternamingandnumbering6iz.png


Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
[B]No... just an elementary Mpeg2 (.M2V) stream!well noone claimed that mp4box supports raw mpeg-2 video import!
it only supports the .mpg program stream container

[SeeMoreDigital]

I see... bummer!

I can see from the listed file types that: .mpg, .mpeg, .vcd and .vob are supported: -

http://img187.echo.cx/img187/9411/yambvideoimport3xh.gif

But is there any reason why .m2v (and .m1v) can't be included too. Or does MP4Box.exe not support this yet?


Cheers

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
But is there any reason why .m2v (and .m1v) can't be included too. Or does MP4Box.exe not support this yet?
mp4box doesn't support this format. Last night, I tried with vob file and it works like a charm.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
mp4box doesn't support this format. What a shame... I hope .m1v and .m2v muxing can be accommodated in a new version at some time in the future?

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Last night, I tried with vob file and it works like a charm. Yes, I tried this myself earlier this morning and .VOB's (obviously without .AC3 audio) muxed fine... Same with .MPG files too!

Do you know whether .VOB or .MPG files containing subtitle streams, will work?


Cheers

[Drachir]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
What a shame... I hope .m1v and .m2v muxing can be accommodated in a new version at some time in the future?

Rename your m2v/m1v to mpg.

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Do you know whether .VOB or .MPG files containing subtitle streams, will work?

No, subtitle import won't work.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Drachir
Rename your m2v/m1v to mpg. Tried that already... It does not work :(


Cheers

[Drachir]

@SeeMoreDigital:

If you use mplex this way:

mplex -f 8 -o test.mpg test.m2v

MP4Box will accept the mpeg file.

A windows binary from mplex comes with DVDAuthorGUI (http://www.videohelp.com/~liquid217/dvdauthorgui.pl).

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Drachir
@SeeMoreDigital:

If you use mplex this way:

mplex -f 8 -o test.mpg test.m2v

MP4Box will accept the mpeg file.

A windows binary from mplex comes with DVDAuthorGUI (http://www.videohelp.com/~liquid217/dvdauthorgui.pl). Yes... I can do as you suggest by using mpucoder's MuxMan (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93553) too :(

I'm quite surprised at the difference in file size between the .VOB and .MP4 muxes: -

http://img229.echo.cx/img229/9674/yambmuxtesting2gv.gif


Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Do you know whether .VOB or .MPG files containing subtitle streams, will work?there is no official subtitle standard for .mpg files...

[SeeMoreDigital]

The problem I'm looking into at the moment is that I-O DATA's LinkPlayer and Buffalo's LinkTheater stand-alone player don't offer seamless .VOB file playback or direct navigation to .IFO files... Meaning users have to put up with lack of chapter navigation, poor/slow subtitle and audio stream switching and a nasty pause between .VOB files... So I was thinking, maybe an .MP4 mux would work better.

To begin with, a tool such as DVD Decrypter would be required to de-mux a DVD to it's elementary streams ie: video (.m2v), audio (.ac3) and subtitle (.sub), together with chapter information. And after converting the .AC3 audio stream to .AAC, use a tool such as YAMB to mux all the streams into .MP4

In reality I guess such a muxing tool, would need to offer the following: - .m2v elementary video streams
multiple .aac audio streams
multiple .sub subtitle streams
chapter marking
Cheers

[Drachir]

@SeeMoreDigital

Where do your *.m2v or *.mp2 files come from ?
If it is a mpg file why don't use:

MP4Box -add test.mpg#video test.mp4
MP4Box -add test.mpg#audio test.mp4 (or rename your mp2 to mp3)

and if not crate a mpeg file with mplex(or other tool):

mplex -f 8 -o test.mpg test.m2v test.mp2

Or how about a feature requests: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=84101

But you can achieve your goal simply with mplex.
You could ask for aac/vorbis import from AVI/MKV/(MOV) too.
Or avc import from mov or mpg(PS/TS). MP4Box can't support all.

Why use ac3 in mp4? If you want keep ac3 use mkv.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Drachir
Where do your *.m2v or *.mp2 files come from ?The .MP4 container is not exclusive to Mpeg4 video and AAC audio!

And I explained a few posts ago the reasons why I would like to mux .m2v streams into the .MP4 container (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=649696#post649696).


Originally posted by Drachir
Why use ac3 in mp4? If you want keep ac3 use mkv. Personally I would not mux .AC3 into .MP4... However, many people ask why they can't do this... And to make matters worse, most .MP4 container capable stand-alone players will not output all 6 channels from an AAC audio stream!

And the .MKV container is out of the question because it is not supported in stand-alone players!


Cheers

[Drachir]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
The .MP4 container is not exclusive to Mpeg4 video and AAC audio!


I never said that only Mpeg 4 part2/10 and (HE)aac can used in mp4 files. Just wanted to know where your files come from and why not mux it to MPEG PS before muxing to a mp4 file.

Are you sure that your player play mpeg 2 video inside mp4?

A friend has a XORO HSD 415 http://www.xoro.com/ . This Player play mp3 inside mp4 files. Never tried mpeg 2 video.