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Rail-Runner
5th May 2005, 02:07
Would anyone have any info in regards to when the Blue laser writers and the media for same will be available, and if there claims of 25GB+ per disc are realalistic, also they claim to still be able to read the standard Red laser media, and can anyone forsee any problems if compressing this form of media, or any info of problems, in the development of said type of writer or media.

2COOL
5th May 2005, 02:23
Have you heard lately of Sony (Blu-Ray) and Toshiba (HD-DVD) might join forces to come up with a next-generation DVD standard? This is to hopefully avoid another DVD format war.

http://www.blu-ray.com/

Zyphon
5th May 2005, 10:31
I think when these new disks do arrive, maybe they should encase them similar to say a floppy to protect them from being handled and scratched.

Rail-Runner
5th May 2005, 11:35
Originally posted by 2COOL
Have you heard lately of Sony (Blu-Ray) and Toshiba (HD-DVD) might join forces to come up with a next-generation DVD standard? This is to hopefully avoid another DVD format war.

http://www.blu-ray.com/ :) Very informative link,TY will look forward to getting the most out of the big screen HD TV when Blu-Ray HD technology hits the market.

zilog jones
6th May 2005, 16:03
Originally posted by Zyphon
I think when these new disks do arrive, maybe they should encase them similar to say a floppy to protect them from being handled and scratched.

Yeah, it's kinda a good idea and a bad idea at the same time though.

Good:
- Protects discs as you said, and that's a very good point. Blockbuster will certainly like the idea!

Bad:
- Backwards compatibility - CDs/DVDs may need to be put in caddies to play on new format hardware
- Will be more complicated, therefore the discs will be more expensive, harder to produce, there'll be mechanical parts to go wrong, and they'll be bigger

ChronoReverse
10th May 2005, 05:05
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2005-05-09T212513Z_01_N09689480_RTRIDST_0_TECH-DVD-FORMATS-DC.XML

If it all pans out, I say hurray and about time.

Joe Fenton
11th May 2005, 02:40
Well, Toshiba is now claiming this is all bollox and not to believe a word of it. :rolleyes:

Sirber
11th May 2005, 12:45
Originally posted by zilog jones
Bad:
- Backwards compatibility - CDs/DVDs may need to be put in caddies to play on new format hardware
- Will be more complicated, therefore the discs will be more expensive, harder to produce, there'll be mechanical parts to go wrong, and they'll be bigger
Some CD drives started like that, idea has been forgotten.

ukb008
13th May 2005, 02:47
If backward compatibility is an issue, then the discs need to be usable without covers. I've seen pictures of these discs in use; Blu-Ray seems to have a protective cover, and HD-DVD does not.

Blu-Ray is a quantum leap, but HD-DVD is an extrapolation from the current base: it uses the same disc structire used by the DVDs.

To remain current on the issue (or any other issues of interest to users of these fora), one has only to read Doom9's newssheets regularly.

Regards.

movmasty
19th May 2005, 04:54
Originally posted by zilog jones
Yeah, it's kinda a good idea and a bad idea at the same time though.

Good:
- Protects discs as you said, and that's a very good point. Blockbuster will certainly like the idea!

Not only, would be more easy to have a double side disk too.

Joe Fenton
19th May 2005, 05:10
Rather than doing double-sided, they're going with more layers. That way you don't have to flip the disc or require two optical assemblies.

ukb008
20th May 2005, 01:53
If they add more data layers, at the same time keeping the disc thickness about the same, won't the disc be more vulnarable to I/O issues due to scratches?

Regards.

movmasty
20th May 2005, 06:05
Originally posted by Joe Fenton
Rather than doing double-sided, they're going with more layers. That way you don't have to flip the disc or require two optical assemblies.
Well, double layer and double side then...

To flip a disc is the same as inserting another, i dont understand the difficulties to have two optical readers, dvd players are cheap...