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dani82
24th April 2005, 09:49
i finally got my network to connect to my neighbor's pc(XP), when i tried to view my vcds and legally download "unlicensed" anime on the network, somehow the quality wasn't as good as it should be (when viewing on the pc)

since i have 2 pc running on winme, it's not the network or my OS causing this, so it has to be XP or an option in XP doing this, unfortunaly i don't have enough experience using that OS, so i'm clueless in what to do?

or maybe it's the player's dafault?

i'm using power dvd 4 & wmp7

my neighbor's using power dvd5 & wmp9

rjgn
24th April 2005, 21:35
EDIT: Nevermind I'm half asleep but I'm sure someone here could suggest reasons for a difference in playback quality.

However there really is no such thing as "legally download "unlicensed" anime", unlicensed anime is still protected by copyright law and you could still end up in court if the copyright holders decided to pursue the matter ;)

Shinigami-Sama
24th April 2005, 22:07
Originally posted by rjgn
EDIT: Nevermind I'm half asleep but I'm sure someone here could suggest reasons for a difference in playback quality.

However there really is no such thing as "legally download "unlicensed" anime", unlicensed anime is still protected by copyright law and you could still end up in court if the copyright holders decided to pursue the matter ;)
techicaly not :D
they have no power here over seas
I;ve looked into it
maybe its a router problem?
not eoung bandwidth from it?

rjgn
25th April 2005, 01:59
techicaly not
they have no power here over seas

You can't have looked into it too well then.

http://fansub-faq.darkmirage.com/

Notice that your particular country (Canada) is a signatory to the Berne Convention.

Shinigami-Sama
25th April 2005, 03:38
well thats a new one on me
never asw that beofer nor has my lawyer..

mpucoder
25th April 2005, 04:02
You should get a new lawyer if he never heard of international copyright law and the Berne Convention.

Shinigami-Sama
25th April 2005, 04:20
Originally posted by mpucoder
You should get a new lawyer if he never heard of international copyright law and the Berne Convention.
she said it wasn't illegal
interesting
but totaly off tpoic..

adam
25th April 2005, 05:13
Some countries in Asia have a pure filing system, so it is possible that there is commercially released anime that is not copyrighted if they chose not to bother filing (unlikely), unlike in the States where you gain copyright protection whether you file or not. Whether the anime is licensed for distribution or not is immaterial. But if the material is copyrighted, it is definitely not a defense to say you thought otherwise. Consequently it is possible that what the original poster is doing is perfectly legal. And then of course there are always ways for material to work its way into the public domain.

There is actually no such thing as international copyright law, but any country that is either a Berne Convention signatory or a WTO member can enforce their copyright law, against a foreign citizen and in the foreign country's courts, so long as that country is also a Berne Convention signatory or WTO member. And of course outside of these treaties you can always still sue the individual in your own country's courts if you can get jurisdiction over them.

dani82
25th April 2005, 09:03
it's not the bandwidth, had a file transfer over recently with the same flaw, i'd install xvid, which somehow may them looked, it could have been just that scene (have to check the color red to be positive)

not really off topic, more of a side topic; if i'd knew there were a chance this could have happen, i would not have listen that part, but i did

Mug Funky
25th April 2005, 17:10
perhaps one machine is using Overlay Mixer, the other using VMR7 or 9 (i forget which is which).

or perhaps there's different decoding filters in use on each machine.

or perhaps they're both using overlay, but one has different contrast/brightness/saturation/gamma settings.

there's a bunch of things it could be, but the OS is pretty far down the list (in fact, i wouldn't even put it in the list)

with directshow being such a messy (but undeniably useful) framework, it's not uncommon for 2 machines to treat the same content in completely different ways. for instance, i can only play ac3 on one of the machines at work, and then only if they have embedded timecodes... but in authoring software they work fine, even though both softwares use directshow.

to level the playing field, try install media player classic on both machines, set them to overlay mixer, then install and set ffdshow to decode MPEG-1 (and check in media player classic that it is being used) and see how it looks then. they should be the same after that, and if they're not, then it's probably either different overlay settings or drastically different behaviours from the video cards in each machine. in this case, tell us what video card and drivers each machine has and we can be confused with you.

on fansubs: i'm pretty sure they're illegal due to the various trade treaties that most countries have. fansubs are a grey area, and symbolise a lot of the current issues with copyright law generally. copyright is designed to encourage cultural advancement by protecting the rights of creative people. however, it's a knife-edge balance that needs to be maintained, and currently it isn't. funsubs offer cultural diversity, but are illegal under copyright law. this is the other side of the copyright fence, so to speak - infringement of copyright, but working in favour of cultural advancement in the same spirit that copyright is meant to.

of course, law suits don't help anyone but people that can afford law suits.

i've never had quite the bandwidth to readily obtain fansubs... but there's quite enough anime in my life, and i don't really want more unless it's bloody good - Naruto doesn't cut it for me, and besides, it's been licensed by the guys that do InuYasha (which also doesn't really interest me, though i haven't seen it with sound yet).