MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Streams and dshow Decoder from FastVDO

[bond]

found a bunch of mpeg-4 avc/h.264 high profile samples from FastVDO here (http://www.fastvdo.com/H.264.html), ranging from 176X144@109 Kbps to 1280X720@3.73 Mbps

they also provide a dshow decoder there :)

[JohnV]

I'm not gonna comment their products, but I heard one of them helped our dev in Vegas night in certain non-serious but essential situation... :) So they are cool. :)

[Sharktooth]

LOL!!! :D

[G-Slide]

good quality :)

[bond]

Originally posted by JohnV
I'm not gonna comment their products, but I heard one of them helped our dev in Vegas night in certain non-serious but essential situation... :) So they are cool. :) :D

[CyberGuy]

Nice! Now I can play, at least the first five minutes, of The Matrix Reloaded that I encoded with the JM 9.4 Reference Encoder using High Profile. This is the first decoder that would play back encodes using 8x8 transform. I hope they add this to the Nero/Ateme codec soon.

[peteag]

how to play????? my wmp10 won't play it anyway! maybe nero's d-show-filter sucks.

update: yes. I've uninstalled nero and now i can see these wonderful pictures. great great great ... great!!!

This is the first firm which shows h.264 realy ahead something different. And they show h.264 realy beeing better than asp and mpeg2. Great! :D

When x264 will include high profile??? or ateme? or fastvdo?

[JohnV]

Originally posted by peteag
how to play????? my wmp10 won't play it anyway! maybe nero's d-show-filter sucks.

update: yes. I've uninstalled nero and now i can see these wonderful pictures. great great great ... great!!!

This is the first firm which shows h.264 realy ahead something different. And they show h.264 realy beeing better than asp and mpeg2. Great! :D

When x264 will include high profile??? or ateme? or fastvdo? FastVDO's streams play fine for me with latest NVE/ShowTime installed, also with wmp10.

[CyberGuy]

Originally posted by JohnV
FastVDO's streams play fine for me with latest NVE/ShowTime installed, also with wmp10.

@JohnV

How soon will Nero support decoding of High Profile video? The only thing I have not been able to play with the Nero codec is High Profile with 8x8 transform. Disable 8x8 transform and High Profile plays fine. Actually, High Profile with 8x8 transforms plays with jerky movement, is blocky, and eventually freezes.

[JohnV]

Originally posted by CyberGuy
@JohnV

How soon will Nero support decoding of High Profile video? The only thing I have not been able to play with the Nero codec is High Profile with 8x8 transform. Disable 8x8 transform and High Profile plays fine. Actually, High Profile with 8x8 transforms plays with jerky movement, is blocky, and eventually freezes. I'm pretty sure in the next update release.. :) I just sent a notice to our dev who is responsible of the AVC decoding and uploaded an example high profile 8x8 stream for him, so shouldn't take long..

[JoeBG]

Can´t connect him with Haalis Splitter :(

[planet1]

Can anyone do some muxing tests in order to find out whether mp4box or mp4creator handle AVC High Profile correctly ?

FastVDO and nero dshow filters should work for decoding ... ;)

[ChronoCross]

I'd like to see something other than live action samples. some american cartoons as well as anime would be great because then we can see how it handles other types of material.

[MuTeK]

peteag
Try Elecard/Moonlight (http://www.elecard.com/download/) AVC/H.264 Decoder.

FVDO_Plane_4cif

Profile Hight
Level 4.0
Coding CABAC
Reference 2 frames

Frames 298
FrameRate 25 fps
Bitrate 774 kbps

GOP Structure IP
Lenght >300
Picture Frame
RateControl CQ
Quantization 24

[peteag]

thank you - purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
it whirrs like a panther

to the files: only the ocean-scene looks something ugly to me, because the horizon is very blurry and you see a lot of "deblocked" blocks. But 3,73 Mbps/s is just stunning!!! So give me the codec, I'll do the rest ... :D

[bond]

Originally posted by MuTeK
[B]peteag
Try Elecard/Moonlight (http://www.elecard.com/download/) AVC/H.264 Decoderthe old Moonlight AVC/H.264 Decoder Package v. 1.1 build 40916 supports high profile already? :confused:

[peteag]

Em, so, maybe ...

It works!

[JohnV]

Originally posted by CyberGuy
@JohnV

How soon will Nero support decoding of High Profile video? The only thing I have not been able to play with the Nero codec is High Profile with 8x8 transform. Disable 8x8 transform and High Profile plays fine. Actually, High Profile with 8x8 transforms plays with jerky movement, is blocky, and eventually freezes. We found out that the reason this didn't decode properly with Nero's decoder was actually a bug in the JM94 reference encoder/decoder!
The cabac initialisation table entry #418, non-I-frame, model 1 has an incorrect value of (32, -13). It should be (33, -13).

[MuTeK]

Originally posted by bond
the old Moonlight AVC/H.264 Decoder Package v. 1.1 build 40916 supports high profile already? :confused:
Elecard MPEG Player v3.0 with AVC decoder build 50208.

and :rolleyes:
Tomsk_AVC High Profile_D1 1550kbps (http://www.elecard.com/avc/Tomsk_AVC%20HP_D1_1550kbps.mpg)
Tomsk_AVC High Profile_720p 2680kbps (http://www.elecard.com/avc/Tomsk_AVC%20HP_HD_2680kbps.mpg)
Tomsk_AVC High Profile_1080p 3300kbps (http://www.elecard.com/avc/Tomsk_AVC%20HP_HDV_3300kbps.mpg)

[peteag]

AVC in perfection! Realy good!

[bond]

Originally posted by MuTeK
Tomsk_AVC High Profile_D1 1550kbps (http://www.elecard.com/avc/Tomsk_AVC%20HP_D1_1550kbps.mpg)
Tomsk_AVC High Profile_720p 2680kbps (http://www.elecard.com/avc/Tomsk_AVC%20HP_HD_2680kbps.mpg)
Tomsk_AVC High Profile_1080p 3300kbps (http://www.elecard.com/avc/Tomsk_AVC%20HP_HDV_3300kbps.mpg) [/B] i didnt try these high profile samples, but your normal .mpg samples on your homepage seem to be somehow borken, because i cant play them with any player, except your own, which is expected to handle avc in mpg (that is mainconcepts filter, mplayer, videolan). the mpg samples from mainconcept play fine on the other side

[CruNcher]

bond they play here with mpc and the fastvdo codec but give visual problems

[bond]

Originally posted by CruNcher
bond they play here with mpc and the fastvdo codec but give visual problems the samples from here (http://www.moonlight.co.il/download/clips/avc/) play in MPC (i think you mean MPC's internal mpegsplitter) and the fastvdo decoder? cant be, cause this doesnt work here...

apart from that the mpc mpegsplitter doesnt handle avc-in-mpg

[CruNcher]

bond i meant those high profile streams they play here in mpc with the fastvdo codec, but results are not clear (visual problems) on some frames sorry for the missunderstandment didn't try those normal ones yet.

[CyberGuy]

Originally posted by JohnV
We found out that the reason this didn't decode properly with Nero's decoder was actually a bug in the JM94 reference encoder/decoder!
The cabac initialisation table entry #418, non-I-frame, model 1 has an incorrect value of (32, -13). It should be (33, -13).

(32, -13) is the correct value. There was a typo in a draft version of the text. It has been corrected and should be correct in the published FRExttext version.

[bond]

Originally posted by CruNcher
bond i meant those high profile streams they play here in mpc with the fastvdo codec, but results are not clear (visual problems) on some frames sorry for the missunderstandment didn't try those normal ones yet. ic :)