Need help processing Star Wars Laser Discs

[thegame]

sorry if i am posting in the wrong area,i am trying to capture my star wars original ld's(definitive,faces and first special edition) and i need help with these filters.
my system is:
dell p4 3.2 ghz
1 gig ram
160 gig hd
winxp pro
pioneer dvr-108 dvd burner
i am capturing with:
rca home theater series ld player(works perfectly)
canopus advc-110 with firewire connect
using monster s-video,and monster THX cert.sound cables from ld player to advc-110
the software i have:
TMPGEnc Plus
Scenalyzer Live
Adobe Audition
DVDit PE
AviSynth v2.5
virtualDub
VirtualDUB Mod
i think i covered it all but what i want to know is,i have been reading alot about Limitedsharpen()and this filter sounds EXCELLENT,can someone please tell me what filters would be good for doing what i want to do and i am not real sure how you write these scripts,i read somewhere also i will need to converttoYUY,and i will need a denoiser(i read somewhere pixiedust is the best is this true?),this all sounds very interesting so any help would be greatly appreciated.
I want to make the best copies of my ld's that i can with what i have.

thanks in advance
game

ps also is it difficult to convert to anamorphic widescreen?because i will be watching these on a 62"hidef toshiba dlp tv.
thanks again

[Guest]

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[thegame]

thanks neuron2 i better read those again,so you are in chicago?I am in Belvidere just outside of Rockford.
thanks again
game

[Guest]

Cool!

Be a bit patient. Our filtering gurus will be along shortly, I'm sure.

See here in the meantime:

http://forum.doom9.org/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=1458484&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[Mug Funky]

do these LDs have analog, LPCM or ac3 sound on them? hopefully it's analog or LPCM, because ac3 to analog to digital to ac3 isn't a nice way to go...

as far as filters goes - only do it if the source is annoyingly dirty - grain is more easily forgiven than denoise artefacts IMHO, and MPEG-2 is good with grain (especially if you have lots of room on the disc for a high bitrate). something light like DegrainMedian, or removedirt would be nice - just watch out for removedirt's oddities, like removing thin lines or moving objects.

i might suggest QuEnc instead of Tmpgenc if your bitrate is going to be lower than about 5.5mbps - it'll handle low bitrates better, at the risk of peaking over the max bitrate (set it conservatively low, like 8.0 mbps).

[Chainmax]

Since Mug Funky suggests RemoveDirt, I recommend LRemoveDust(4,2) or (4,1). It's done wonders on a recent VHS capture I processed. Copy the following code into an avs file:

function LRemoveDust(clip input, int _mode, int "limit")
{
limit=default(limit,4)
repmode = 2
clensed = Clense(input)
rep=Repair(clensed, input, mode=repmode)
rg = RemoveGrain(rep, mode=_mode)
rd=TemporalRepair(rg, rep)
return LimitChange(rd, input, limit)
}

It needs the following filters: MaskTools (http://manao4.free.fr/MaskTools-v1.5.6.zip) and RemoveGrain (choose the appropriate version of each filter in the package) (http://www.removegrain.de.tf/). I see that the v0.8 package now has SSETools, I assume that we don't need the inofficial plugins anymore?


You might want to check if the discs has some other issues like rainbowing (IIRC, laserdisc can show rainbows depending on how it was captured). You should also check if it's interlaced or telecined: if it's interlaced and you want the best quality (use high bitrates), you might want to consider keeping it interlaced, but if it's telecined you will want to do IVTC (I recommend TIVTC (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=634602#post634602) or Decomb (http://neuron2.net/decomb/decombnew.html) for that). In order to find out wether the source is interlaced or telecined, read Decomb's awesome tutorial and reference manuals. After IVTCing, you need to apply pulldown (http://neuron2.net/dgpulldown/dgpulldown.html) to the encode before making the DVD. If you have any more doubts don't hesitate to ask again :). By the way, if you provide us with a small sample of the unfiltered capture we will be able to give you more accurate tips.

Mug Funky, how does QuEnc compare to CCE SP and HC-013 at low bitrates? And high bitrates?

[edit]
P.S: it seems that there is a new version of the LRemoveDust function, standby for confirmation.

[thegame]

thanks for the reply guys,but how do i add limitedsharpen()to the script and pixiedust?also i was reading about people cropping the video,what do they mean by this it is already letterboxed,do they crop the black bars off then process the video,and then make it anamorphic?if so how exactly do you make it anamorphic because, i would like to do this to take advantage of my widescreen tv.
i know once i do this once i wont have to ask so many questions ,but finding info on how to process your video into anamorphic widescreen i cant find any info anywhere,also after my first script i should be good to go,
so please bare with me untill i do my first processing.
thanks for the info please keep it coming
also mug funky asks:
do these LDs have analog, LPCM or ac3 sound on them?
i am not sure the boxes just say dolby digital surround THX thats it,the sets i want to work on are:
Star Wars:The Definitive Collection
Star Wars Faces THX Trilogy
Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy(first one)
thanks again for all info
game