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trbarry
14th April 2005, 14:49
Xvid generates a quant for each frame in the range of 1-31. But for 1 pass CBR/ABR it seems some extremely difficult scenes may generate too many bits for a period of time even when the quant goes to 31. Imagine a scene with just high contrast moving random dots. I'd like to lose more detail there if possible.

It occurs to me that some custom quant matrices might be better at handling this than others because the quants at the outer edges of the matrix are higher and so the bit rate might drop faster as the frame quant increases.

Is that true? And can anybody recommend some good ones?

- Tom

Koepi
14th April 2005, 15:33
Hm, HVS Good matrix comes to my mind. There the quantisation is getting very stromg at relatively low quantisers (and so is the detail loss ;) ).

But it might be worth a try, Tom.

Cheers
Koepi

trbarry
14th April 2005, 15:56
Koepi -

Thanks. I'll try that one.

IIRC, Xvid used to have some problem where once you used a custom quant matrix it did not alway load the default ones correctly. That isn't still a problem these days is it? (if it ever really was)

- Tom

Koepi
14th April 2005, 16:03
I never had such issues since pre-0.9-builds anymore, so I assume it's safe %)

Best regards
Koepi

Sharktooth
14th April 2005, 16:05
Maybe you can try also EQM V3ULR.
I tested it on a similar source and i was pretty pleased with the result.

trbarry
18th April 2005, 14:00
Thanks guys. I tested over the weekend and while both helped EQM V3ULR especially seems to to the job.

- Tom