DVD-RB PRO missing feature?

[leopardone]

Before the requests, I must say that this is a WONDERFUL app!!! :D
So... just an information... and a request ;)

I've got 3 points with 0.83PRO version:
1) fix audio tracks list into the movie ifo file
2) fix missing vts into the video_ts.ifo file
3) management of the extra when they're inside the movie vts

1) fix audio tracks list into the movie ifo file
I've seen that there is a little problem with the MOVIE+MENU ONLY method.
Unfortunately dvd-rb doesn't manage in the right way the movie ifo file, leaving the complete list of all the audio tracks even if are gone by dvd-rb strip. (if I do a strip before with ifoedit this problem disappears because ifoedit creates a right ifo file).
I mean:
this is the original ifo

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: Italiano (Italian) (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81)
Audio 3: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC director's comments (ID: 0x82)
Audio 4: Japanese (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x83)
Audio 5: Portugues (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x84)
Audio 6: Español (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x85)
Audio 7: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x86)
Audio 8: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC director's comments (ID: 0x87)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20)
SubPicture 2: Italiano (Italian) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x21)
SubPicture 3: Italiano (Italian) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22)
SubPicture 4: Italiano (Italian) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x23)


and this is the one created by ifoedit during the stripping, where are shown ONLY the audio tracks and subtitles not stripped:

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: Italiano (Italian) (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81)
SubPicture 1: Italiano (Italian) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x21)
SubPicture 2: Italiano (Italian) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22)
SubPicture 3: Italiano (Italian) (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x23)

It's very interesting to know what is the language of the movie without start it ;)

2) fix missing vts into the video_ts.ifo file
The other problem I see is the "relink".
Every time a strip the unwanted vts parts (also with different methods...), I edit the VIDEO_TS.IFO file in order to "relink" (sorry for the name, but I've never read anything around about this technique, so I called it in this way :D ) all the missing part to the movie.
Just to let u understand, this is the part I modify in VMG_PTT_SRPT:

[0000000e] Title_1: Title set number (VTS#) 1 [01]
[0000000f] Title_1: Title set Title-number (VTS_TTN) 1 [01]

where I "relink" all the missing <Title set number (VTS#)> to the movie and a change to 1 all the <Title set Title-number (VTS_TTN)>.
In this way, even if I don't fix the menu with menuedit, when I click on a button that points to a missing part, starts the movie :D

3) management of the extra when they're inside the movie vts
The last thing is how to manage the extras if they're putted into the movie vts.
For example I've tryed with THE SIMPSONS SEASON 4 where the extras aren't into extra vts, but are embedded into the movie vts.
If I use dvd-rb I CAN'T wipe 'em because dvd-rb encode all the vts.
In order to bypass this problem I used vobblanker2 to blank and strip all the unwanted parts.
No way to have a more deep control of what dvd-rb want to encode? :D


Sorry for these "brokenballs" requests, but I think they're very interesting for ppl ;)
Is there any possibility to see these new features into a new version? ;)

Best regards,
Leo

ps: sorry for my "desperate" English. I hope u all will understand :confused:

[buzzqw]

iirc ifo wasn't update for a compatibility issue with some player.

But if you "hear"/demux vob you will found only your audio tracks and subs tracks...

BHH

[Rockas]

Well the answer to your first question can be resumed to one answer:

DVD Rebuilder don't touch that data to avoid the "malfunction" of menus.

The third question shouldn't be a question, 'cause Rebuilder does it already... all you got to do is to uncheck the option "Show Extra segments only" under the Menu "Options" of the "Segment Viewer/Editor"
- hoping that those extras are in separated cell (they usually are)

keep it UP

[jdobbs]

And I don't think #2 is necessary (although I admit it isn't completely clear to me).

In DVD-RB you never really "strip" anything. When you blank something it is replaced by .5 seconds of blank video... that way any "relinking" is unnecessary. I am purposefully trying to adhere to the original structure of the DVD. Playing around with the logic of the original designer causes a lot more problems than it is worth.

[leopardone]

1) fix audio tracks list into the movie ifo file
Originally posted by buzzqw
iirc ifo wasn't update for a compatibility issue with some player.

But if you "hear"/demux vob you will found only your audio tracks and subs tracks...

BHH
yes, I know there are ONLY the tracks I didn't strip, but could be nice to have a "clean" ifo file.
4 the compatibility... ifoedit does it and there are no probs.
any possibility to have here the same thing? :)


1) fix audio tracks list into the movie ifo file
3) management of the extra when they're inside the movie vts
Originally posted by Rockas
Well the answer to your first question can be resumed to one answer:

DVD Rebuilder don't touch that data to avoid the "malfunction" of menus.

The third question shouldn't be a question, 'cause Rebuilder does it already... all you got to do is to uncheck the option "Show Extra segments only" under the Menu "Options" of the "Segment Viewer/Editor"
- hoping that those extras are in separated cell (they usually are)
keep it UP

4 the compatibility... ifoedit does it and there are no probs.
any possibility to have here the same thing? :)
4 the extras... maybe I'm blind!!! :( Sorry...
Tonight I'll check it :)

2) fix missing vts into the video_ts.ifo file
Originally posted by jdobbs
And I don't think #2 is necessary (although I admit it isn't completely clear to me).

In DVD-RB you never really "strip" anything. When you blank something it is replaced by .5 seconds of blank video... that way any "relinking" is unnecessary. I am purposefully trying to adhere to the original structure of the DVD. Playing around with the logic of the original designer causes a lot more problems than it is worth.
mmm... well... I do that modification to have a "clean" ifo file in order to let the player know if a deleted vts is chosen on the menu, must be played the one I relinked (usually the movie).
And I have never had problems :)
But... I'm a lucky owner of the pro version only by 3 days... and I'm really testing it.

All my considerations are driven from my previous ripping background, so I'm trying to understand how this awesome app works :D

Sorry 4 my (often) stupid questions :)

[jdobbs]

Hey -- that's why I'm here...