MenuShrink 2.2 is here!

[jeanl]

MenuShrink Version 2.0 is here!
EDIT MenuShrink Version 2.2 is also here! See below! (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=657468#post657468)

MenuShrink is a small application that turns large motion menus into tiny still
menus with or without audio. Menus can usually be shrunk down to 5% to 10% of
their original size, while keeping full functionality.

Version 2.0 has the following main new features:

New Preview mode allows you to visually select which image to use in each menu.
The output DVD are more compliant than before. The remaining problems with highlights not showing on some DVD players have been fixed.
Cells with "non-functional" buttons are now skipped.
There's an new panel to set the path to your favorite apps.

along with many improvements and bug fixes.
Get the new version at the usual place:
http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/

Here's the change log.

UI:

Added selection with video preview for the still frame.
MenuShrink remembers which frames were manually selected for the last processed DVD.
MenuShrink can reload the last opened DVD.
Added tool buttons and a path panel to set them up.
Added support for messages in french.
Added better command-line support. Pass video_ts.ifo and you open the full DVD. Pass vts_01_0.vob and only that VTS is marked for processing.
If the VTSM_C_ADT table isn't correct to begin with, MenuShrink no longer crash.
The VTS selection panel has been improved.

Engine:

MenuShrink now produces more compliant single-VOBU cells in no-audio mode.
In audio mode, the audio is no longer clipped when the buttons appear late in the menu.
MenuShrink now picks the smallest frame for transition clips (menu intros/outros).
MenuShrink now squashes and attempts to skip cells that have non-functional buttons (either tiny buttons, or buttons that all have NOP commands).

Bug Fixes:

Fixed a bug in the pack identification routine that caused an audio pack to be mistaken for a navpack in Godzilla!!!
Fixed a problems with tools when the path to the DVD folder had spaces in it.
Occasional highlight delay has been fixed.
The few remaining problems with highlights not showing on some DVD and some players have been ironed out.


Here's the thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91414&goto=nextoldest) for
version 1.0.

Enjoy!
jeanl

[lelo108]

First!!
i love you man

Je t'aime lol
tu es trop fort!
merci beaucoup pour ce taff!!!

[jeanl]

Originally posted by lelo108
First!!
i love you man

Je t'aime lol
tu es trop fort!
merci beaucoup pour ce taff!!!
!!! LOL! :D
I'm laughing my ass off over here! Next thing we know, this thread's going to be censored for obcenity! But keep it coming man!! LOL!
Tout le plaisir est pour moi, by the way ;)
jeanl

[jsoto]

I like much your manual still selection. Easy to use.
Good work, jeanl !!

jsoto

[jeanl]

Originally posted by jsoto
I like much your manual still selection. Easy to use.
Good work, jeanl !!

jsoto
Thanks jsoto! I haven't included your color-enabled log yet (I ran into problems, didn't find the time to solve them) but I really want to. That makes the log sooo much more readable. I'll keep you posted...
Jeanl

[blutach]

Congratulations jean from one of your hardworking "beta testers" LOL

BTW: Your link to the thread for MS 1.0 is wrong (was also wrong at DD but was fixed :))

Regards

[Whitespliff]

I get version 1 when I d/l from your site, already had that one ;)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by Whitespliff
I get version 1 when I d/l from your site, already had that one ;)
This happens sometimes if you don't refresh... When you get to the download page (not the main page), hit F5 (or refresh your browser). Then you'll get version 2.0

jeanl

[Whitespliff]

Strange, I delete my tempory files (along with history & cookies) almost daily so it should have given me the new page.
Stupid mistake on my part :rolleyes:
Tnx

[jeanl]

It's a bit scary though... I wonder if a lot of people will get version 1.0 instead of 2.0 and wonder what the heck is wrong!
Anybody knows how to avoid the problem on my side (can I do something on the web page to make sure this does not happen?).
jeanl

[CoNS]

Put the version number in the file name...?

And delete http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Binaries/index.html and stick to direct links to the files.

[jeanl]

Originally posted by CoNS
Put the version number in the file name...?

And delete http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Binaries/index.html and stick to direct links to the files.
yes yes yes... I put the version number in the files, and deleted the old one (so people might get an error, but won't get the old version).
The intermediate page allows me to see the number of downloads. I don't know how to do that otherwise (I don't like such intermediate pages myself!).
jeanl

[blutach]

Bug in Log??

Any one else get this?

I press save and I got a run time error so I re-processed. Save again, and nothing in log. Had to copy and paste manually.

Regards

[jeanl]

OK that problem was solved. If you run into it, download version 2.04 from the web, here (http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Binaries/MenuShrink2.04.zip)...

Thanks blutach :)
jeanl

[Whitespliff]

Originally posted by jeanl
It's a bit scary though... I wonder if a lot of people will get version 1.0 instead of 2.0 and wonder what the heck is wrong!
Anybody knows how to avoid the problem on my side (can I do something on the web page to make sure this does not happen?).
jeanl I think: <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache"> does just that (add it in your header).

Hope this helps

[jeanl]

Originally posted by Whitespliff
I think: <meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache"> does just that (add it in your header).

Hope this helps
Excellent! I'll put it there! Thanks a bunch...
jeanl

[daehkcid]

Mec, ca sera cool si on pouvait editer les menus! Il ne manque que ca!

[jeanl]

Originally posted by daehkcid
Mec, ca sera cool si on pouvait editer les menus! Il ne manque que ca!
Translation: "dude it would be cool if we could edit menus. That's the only thing missing"

Answer: Mec, it would be cool if you wrote in english for the rest of us on this forum ;).

To edit menus, you have PgcEdit's menu editor, which is absolutely fabulous! You can change almost EVERY aspect of your menus. There's really not much to add to that.
But what did you have in mind anyway???
jeanl

[arsmori]

Originally posted by jeanl
But what did you have in mind anyway???My guess: a simpler PgcEdit menu editor, a freeware MenuEdit, with fries... and mayonnaise.
Superb app btw, just shrunk 8½ criterion ed. menu from 280MB to 7 MB, I love it.:cool:

Originally posted by jeanl
Mec, it would be cool if you wrote in english for the rest of us on this forum ;).Ahh, ze assimilated expats, ze are zeu worsteuh francophobez.:sly:
(j/k, I know I know, international forum, intelligibility! rules! aux armes etc.)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori

Ahh, ze assimilated expats, ze are zeu worsteuh francophobez.:sly:
(j/k, I know I know, international forum, intelligibility! rules! aux armes etc.)
You have me rolling on the floor here! :) :). Don't want to go into politics here, but I live in the states and believe me, I'm far from assimilated (like many US citizens I know!!!).
Anyway, thanks for the good words! A plus! ;)
jeanl

[mpucoder]

Assimilation is inevitable. Resistance is futile. We (the U.S.) are the Borg.

[jeanl]

See?! THere! And I didn't want to go into a political discussion!
:D :D :D
jeanl

[DnGermany]

Just wanted to say thanks for a great tool. I've used it on several films, and it works very well. The preview function is a great addition to the program, as before I had to restore and try again at a different % on the slider for the menu picture. :-)

[jeanl]

Thanks DnGermany!
jeanl

[arsmori]

Hey jean, I notice that sometimes, for some reason, animated menus cells alternate sharp and slightly blurred frames.
While imperceptible in sequence, this is quite noticeable when those frames are isolated due to the fuzzy writing.
I can't catch this in MenuShrink™ tiny preview window though, and have to go the empirical way to get the goodies.
Is there a way to maximize that window that I haven't found, or can you add this?
It would be suuuper :)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
Hey jean, I notice that sometimes, for some reason, animated menus cells alternate sharp and slightly blurred frames.
While imperceptible in sequence, this is quite noticeable when those frames are isolated due to the fuzzy writing.
I can't catch this in MenuShrink™ tiny preview window though, and have to go the empirical way to get the goodies.
Is there a way to maximize that window that I haven't found, or can you add this?
It would be suuuper :)
MenuShrink™ I LIKE that!!! :)

You can resize the preview window at will (and menushrink remembers the size from run to run). Give it a shot! MenuSHrink only uses an I-frame for the menu, but I've seen cases (probably with interlaced material) where the still menu seemed to "oscillate" between two frames on my standalone. I"m not sure that's what you mean though...

jeanl

[arsmori]

Hey, me again :D (woopie doo!) I was trying to shrink Carnival Of Souls (R1 criterion) menu. It has a lot of text stills in it (essays, interviews verbatim, etc.) and when accessing those in the shrinked menu, Media Player Classic and DVD Tray Player hang. They're the kind of still with 3 buttons (backward, index and forward) and as soon as I select one of those buttons the player freeze. I'm too lazy to test on a standalone, but obviously something is not kosher. I finally shrinked the menu with VobBlanker by manually selecting the large cell only, witch give me the same final size result, but it's tedious :(
Originally posted by jeanl
MenuShrink™ I LIKE that!!! :)Sounds a bit too much like one of McDonald's next Chapter 11 meals, don't you think?

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
Hey, me again :D (woopie doo!) I was trying to shrink Carnival Of Souls (R1 criterion). It has a lot of text stills in it (essays, interviews verbatim, etc.) and when accessing those in the shrinked menu, Media Player Classic and DVD Tray Player hang. They're the kind of still with 3 buttons (backward, index and forward) and as soon as I select one of those the player freeze. I'm too lazy to test on a standalone, but obviously something is not kosher.

Which version are you using? If you're using version 2.05 or later, I know that something I changed (in the VOBU_SRI area) to fix something on one user's standalone makes mediaplayerclassic hang on some menus (not quite sure yet which ones and why). I need to fix that in the next beta. Can you go back and check 2.04 and see if you get the same problem?
You'll find it here:
http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Betas
Let me know!
Thanks!

[arsmori]

Originally posted by jeanl
Which version are you using? If you're using version 2.05 or later, I know that something I changed (in the VOBU_SRI area) to fix something on one user's standalone makes mediaplayerclassic hang on some menus (not quite sure yet which ones and why). I need to fix that in the next beta. Can you go back and check 2.04 and see if you get the same problem?
You'll find it here:
http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Betas
Let me know!
Thanks! I was using v2.07 and yes v2.04 fix this :cool:
Btw, do I have to delete the MenuShrink folder in my 'Application Data' profile folder when I change versions?

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
I was using v2.07 and yes v2.04 fix this :cool:
Btw, do I have to delete the MenuShrink folder in my 'Application Data' profile folder when I change versions?
no you don't have to delete anything... All this stuff is backwards compatible, so to speak. You can hardly say that 2.04 "fixes" the problem in 2.07 ;), as 2.07 came after 2.04!
Anyway, 2.08 will fix that, I just need to go back and take a look at what I changed in the VOBU_SRI and figure out exactly what it is that mediaplayerclassic does not like! I'll keep you posted.

Jeanl

[arsmori]

Got a big one!
Eddie Izzard: Circle - R1

Do I get a cookie?

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
Got a big one!
Eddie Izzard: Circle - R1

Do I get a cookie?
you have to show your goods! Post an screenshot of the main panel!
jeanl
P.S. Haven't seen "circle", but I love Eddie Izzard!

[arsmori]

I did, just need to wait a bit for an admin to authorize my attachment.

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
I did, just need to wait a bit for an admin to authorize my attachment.
To post images, I find the easiest solution is to host them on Image Shack (http://www.imageshack.ws/), and use the tag they provide in your post. That way you don't have to wait for an admin to authorize it!
jeanl

[jeanl]

People,
I've put MenuShrink 2.08 in the Betas directory, http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Betas/ . It fixes the VOBU_SRI bug that caused mediaplayerclassic to hang, and it also fixes a small problem that sometimes prevented MenuShrink from restoring a backup.

Still a beta, so use with relative caution (although there isn't that much different from 2.0, really!).
jeanl

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
Got a big one!
Eddie Izzard: Circle - R1

Do I get a cookie?
You do get a cookie, you're #8 on the record list (http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/);

Well done Bruce!
jeanl

[blutach]

Originally posted by jeanl
People,
I've put MenuShrink 2.08 in the Betas directory, http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/Betas/ . It fixes the VOBU_SRI bug that caused mediaplayerclassic to hang, and it also fixes a small problem that sometimes prevented MenuShrink from restoring a backup. Thanks jean.

Regards

[jeanl]

MenuShrink Version 2.1 is here!


Version 2.1 has the following main new features:

The VTSM_C_ADT table is now fixed if it was incorrect to begin with. DVD Shrink should no longer complain in such (rare) cases.
The LOG is now in color. This will make it much easier to see warnings and errors. Thanks jsoto!!
MenuShrink is more clever than before when it comes to skipping "useless" menus.

along with a couple bug fixes.
Get the new version at the usual place:
http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/
Make sure to refresh the download page to get version 2.1!

Here's the change log.

UI:

The LOG now has color, which makes it much easier to see warnings and errors. Thanks jsoto!
Cells that were not referenced in the original DVD are now flagged in the log.

Engine:

MenuShrink now fixes the VTSM_C_ADT when it's not correct to begin with. This fixes problems related to DVD Shrink complaining when opening menu-shrunk DVDs with incorrect VTSM_C_ADT tables.
In those rare cases where the button definition changes in the middle of a cell, MenuShrink now uses the last buttong definition, which is more likely to be the right one.
MenuShrink now updates some of the navpack's VOBU_SRI pointers, which fixes a problem one user encountered on his DVD recorder.
If all the commands in a menu are NOPs or LinkNextProgram, MenuShrink will "kill" the cell (the menu is essentially a useless "intro"). This makes for better menu navigation.

Bug Fixes:

Fixed a bug in the save log routine that sometimes caused garbled output.
Fixed a bug that prevented restoring some backup files in some weird cases.
Fixed a bug that caused menus to not show when animated highlights were present (very rare). This was the case for example for Spiderman 1. MenuShrink now only keeps the first subpic unit it finds in the menu.


Enjoy!
jeanl

[arsmori]

Now with more smartytool goodness!
The more MenuShrink think and work for me, the more food I can gobble up in front of the set watching ze damn movies.
Thanks jean :)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by arsmori
Now with more smartytool goodness!
The more MenuShrink think and work for me, the more food I can gobble up in front of the set watching ze damn movies.
Thanks jean :)
boy, now I'm going to be responsible for your bad eating habits! No food in front of the TV arsmori! Bad boy, bad boy!
:D
jeanl

[blutach]

I do hope that log is in blue jean!

Thanks for new version :)

Regards

[jeanl]

Originally posted by blutach
I do hope that log is in blue jean!

Thanks for new version :)

Regards
as blue as ever man! With a bit of green, and hopefully no red!
Jeanl

[dirio49]

Great job, jean
love the log
tory

[jeanl]

Originally posted by dirio49
Great job, jean
love the log
tory
you have jsoto to thank for that! He's the one who figured out how to put color to it. It helps a whole lot IMHO...
Buth thanks nonetheless! :)
Jeanl

[dirio49]

i just wanted to say thanks for the new version
tory

P.S. Sorry If I mistaked about the log( I already complimented josto for a job well done)

[blutach]

@jean

You might like to change the title of this thread to let users know that the new version has been released.

Regards

[jeanl]

Originally posted by blutach
@jean

You might like to change the title of this thread to let users know that the new version has been released.

Regards
You're right, good idea. Thanks.
Jeanl

[Whitespliff]

I get a 504 Gateway Timeout error, this has been happening all week now :(
Some mirrors perhaps?

EDIT: this happens sometimes, perhaps there are simply too many people d/l (it is a great program after all :D )

[jeanl]

Originally posted by Whitespliff
I get a 504 Gateway Timeout error, this has been happening all week now :(
Some mirrors perhaps?
You do? It's working just fine for me right now???? :confused:

I don't have a mirror setup right now... I'm not too sure how to set one up... I could ask at videohelp I guess. If you can't find a solution, I"ll email it to you, just pm me your email...
Jeanl

[Whitespliff]

Damn, I thought I just edit my post but you're too fast again :D

[jeanl]

Originally posted by Whitespliff
Damn, I thought I just edit my post but you're too fast again :D
:D
But I think a mirror is a good idea... I'll look into it!
jeanl

[jeanl]

People,
Stefan at videohelp agreed to host MenuShrink! That's great news because their server is soooo much faster than free.fr! Thanks a bunch to them!

So, here's a mirror home page for MenuShrink:

http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/

This should be the prefered download location...
Enjoy!
Jeanl

[blutach]

Originally posted by jeanl
:D
But I think a mirror is a good idea... I'll look into it!
jeanl By the look of your avatar jean, you're too ugly for a mirror!!! :D :D :D

Also, at least on my PC, the img alt="" src="MenuShrink.bmp" picture is not showing (image at top next to MS Home Page).

Regards

[jeanl]

My avatar, isn't a faithful picture of me. I'm much uglier that that!
Jeanl
P.S. The pic shows for me? :confused:
P.P.S The avatar is spikey, Tex Avery's great dog!

[Surf]

WARNING!

MenuShrink is turned into a bloatware! From 148k to 396k !!

It's still April, isn't it? :D

Great job, Jeani!! :D Love the preview.
(you have to bear with me for a few days to get that outa the system)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by Surf
WARNING!

MenuShrink is turned into a bloatware! From 148k to 396k !!

much to my dismay, mind you... The preview code is what did it :(...


Great job, Jeani!! :D Love the preview.
(you have to bear with me for a few days to get that outa the system)
I'll bear with you, but not for much longer :p and thanks for the feedback...
jeani

[2COOL]

Just wanted to provide a tip here. I found an easier way for me to process menu VOBs without dragging them into MenuShrink. I did this in WinXP though. I had copy of MenuShrink.exe or a shortcut of it and pasted it into my C:\Documents and Settings\username\SendTo folder. Now, I just right click on VOB in Explorer and send it to MenuShrink. ;)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Just wanted to provide a tip here. I found an easier way for me to process menu VOBs without dragging them into MenuShrink. I did this in WinXP though. I had copy of MenuShrink.exe or a shortcut of it and pasted it into my C:\Documents and Settings\username\SendTo folder. Now, I just right click on VOB in Explorer and send it to MenuShrink. ;)
EXCELLENT! I didn't know it was that easy! Thanks!
jeanl

[blutach]

Right click a VOB (which one?) or VIDEO_TS.IFO?

BTW: I use that trick to get a VOB into VobEdit, too and open an IFO in IfoEdit or open a DVD in VobBlanker :)!

Regards

[2COOL]

Originally posted by blutach
Right click a VOB (which one?) or VIDEO_TS.IFO?VOB

BTW: I use that trick to get a VOB into VobEdit, too and open an IFO in IfoEdit :)! Before I reinstalled from my crash, I couldn't get my VOB to open with VobEdit in Explorer's open with feature. Now, I can get to work with "open with" and "send to". :confused:

[blutach]

Still hiding your light I see Mr (Invsible) Cool.

Yer up late!

Regards

[2COOL]

Originally posted by blutach
Still hiding your light I see Mr (Invsible) Cool.

Yer up late! Yeah! My sleep schedule is being staggered again. :( BTW, I'm hiding behind my invisible (cool)loak. :p

[blutach]

So, I see Harry Potter.

Regards

[r0lZ]

Originally posted by 2COOL
VOBVOB? :confused:

MenuShrink accepts any VOB or IFO as argument. However, if you select an IFO (any IFO) or VIDEO_TS.VOB, all menu VOBs will be automatically selected for processing (look in advanced options). But if you select a VTS_XX_0.VOB, only that titleset will be selected.
It's a feature I have asked jeanl to add so that MenuShrink is easlly installable and partially configurable in the Tools menu of PgcEdit.

Before I reinstalled from my crash, I couldn't get my VOB to open with VobEdit in Explorer's open with feature. Now, I can get to work with "open with" and "send to". :confused: It may be because your registry entries pointing to these special folders were wrong or damaged. Anyway, it's necessary to reinstall Windoze from time to time, to fix that kind of damaged setups. Thanks, Bill Gates!

[2COOL]

@r0lZ

I stand corrected and now I will lie down to get some sleep before I saying any more mumbo jumbo. ;)

[dirio49]

Originally posted by r0lZ

It may be because your registry entries pointing to these special folders were wrong or damaged. Anyway, it's necessary to reinstall Windoze from time to time, to fix that kind of damaged setups. Thanks, Bill Gates!

Windows sucks like that,
I will have to reinstall it soon, (too slow)
all thanks to Bill Gates.

[jeanl]

Here's Lark's menushrink record on lion king, R2. He takes number 3 with this one!
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/8295/lionkingr2d15cl.png

jeanl
P.S. Yeah, blutach, I know, there's probably previews in the menu domain which does not really count as a menu (because you can remove them with other tools). I agree I agree, but still (so to speak)!

[lark]

thx jeanl.
actually this one had a year long intro clip for the main menu.
in addition the main menu is (well, was) way too long animation.
and on top of everything there was a pretty much dummy VOB for VMGM (i've seen similar in the incredibles). looks like disney just wants to use every single bit that's available on the dvd...

regards
t :)

[jeanl]

Originally posted by lark
thx jeanl.
actually this one had a year long intro clip for the main menu.
in addition the main menu is (well, was) way too long animation.
and on top of everything there was a pretty much dummy VOB for VMGM (i've seen similar in the incredibles). looks like disney just wants to use every single bit that's available on the dvd...

regards
t :)
so no previews in that one! (I mean, not in the menu domain)! Amazing!
Jeanl

[lark]

the more i backup disney for my kids, the less i like them (i mean disney, not my kids)...

regards
t :)

[blutach]

Originally posted by jeanl
Here's Lark's menushrink record on lion king, R2. He takes number 3 with this one!
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/8295/lionkingr2d15cl.png

jeanl
P.S. Yeah, blutach, I know, there's probably previews in the menu domain which does not really count as a menu (because you can remove them with other tools). I agree I agree, but still (so to speak)! Bugger it! I'm gunna author my OWN DVD with about 3 Gigs of unreferenced material in VMGM and menushrink it. And that, will be that! :D

Regards

[lark]

maybe we should have a separate category for disney DVDs...

edit: btw, what counts as unreferenced? what if it belongs to a pgc that's referenced, but never gets played (there is a pre command that always somewhere else)...?

regards
t :)

[blutach]

Then it's referenced material. It doesn;t have to be played to be referenced. In fact, many titles are never played, because their precommands jump out of them.

Regards

[jeanl]

Unbe^%$#lievable...

Check this one out:
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/2661/foo4fm.png (http://www.imageshack.us)

That's "an american tail" R1 (kid movie).
I think I'm in #1 position (even though I'll admit there's more than just menus, lots of games and stuff in the menu domain).

Whatdoyousay?!
:D :D

jeanl
P.S. Note: I even kept the audio! :D

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jeanl
Whatdoyousay?!

http://img13.echo.cx/img13/5499/1st015wo.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

[blutach]

If there's games and other crap - no ceegar!!!!!

IfoEdit could have removed them, non?



_________________________
The Official Judge

[jeanl]

Originally posted by blutach
If there's games and other crap - no ceegar!!!!!

IfoEdit could have removed them, non?
_________________________
The Official Judge


You're absolutely right. If I remove everything possible with PgcEdit, I'm down to 1.2GB of menu. If I remove all the menus but the movie menu, then I'm down to 700MB (still, isn't that amazing, a KID movie!).
Anyway, I agree with you that only taking the size of the menu domain into account isn't very accurate / fair... But it makes for good entertainment!
;)
jeanl

[blutach]

Yes, it's fun jean :)

BTW: Thanks to you (and Neuron?) for the update fix on PgcEditPreview.

Regards

[jeanl]

MenuShrink Version 2.2 is here!

Version 2.2 has the following main new features:

You can keep some of the menus animated if you want to. The preview
panel has one more button to do that and tells you what the size of the original
menu cell is so you can decide whether to shrink it or not.
The progress bar has a much finer grain and no longer looks stuck when
loading very large cells.

along with a couple bug fixes.
Get the new version at the usual place:
http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/
Make sure to refresh the download page to get version 2.2!

Here's the change log.

UI:

The progress bar has a much finer grain (no longer looks stuck when reading
large cells)
There is a new "Keep" button in the preview panel, to keep a menu animated.
The preview panel now displays the size of the menu cell to help decide
whether to keep it or not.

Engine:

The engine now supports preserving animated menus.
MenuShrink now fixes the VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table when it's not correct to begin with.

Bug Fixes:

Restore backup was behaving poorly when the backup directory hadn't been
created yet.
The number of included SPUs (subpic units) has been increased from 1 to 4 per
cell. This should fix problems previously encountered in some (rare) DVDs
(incredibles R4 for example).


Enjoy!
jeanl

[dirio49]

Love that you get to select to keep some cell animated.
is there any way to keep the intro/out animated to.
But great job.
thanks:D

[jeanl]

Originally posted by dirio49
Love that you get to select to keep some cell animated.
is there any way to keep the intro/out animated to.
But great job.
thanks:D
No, not at this point! Sorry...
Note, that that would make it very tedious for the preview, because presumably you'd have to be able to preview every single cell (whether or not it has buttons, no matter how short). In many DVDs there are hundreds of them...
To avoid that, MS would have to be smarter: detect that you wanted to save this menu, so keep any cell that plays right before and right after that menu... Impossible to do at this point because MS does not read the IFOs until after it's done shrinking everything!

That's a task for vobblanker!
Jeanl

[2COOL]

Great work jeanl! Anyway of putting in an option to get a bigger previewing size of menus?

[jeanl]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Great work jeanl! Anyway of putting in an option to get a bigger previewing size of menus?
:confused: you can resize the preview panel as big as you like it! Does this not work for you?
Jeanl

[2COOL]

I stand corrected! :(

[blutach]

Can't you keep the intro/outro animated by simply skipping processing the cell?

Regards

[jeanl]

Originally posted by blutach
Can't you keep the intro/outro animated by simply skipping processing the cell?
Regards
No, because MS does not open the preview on cells that are normally skipped (i.e., cells that don't have buttons, or have only 1 I-frame, or have tiny buttons, or have all NOP commands, etc).
I could add an option so the user get to preview all the cells that have more than 1 I-frame though. I'll try that...
Jeanl

[r0lZ]

Good idea, jeanl. Will be nice!
Maybe you should add also an option in the viewer to turn it off, so that the user will be able to skip all remaining no-buttons cells at once.

[jeanl]

OK Guys,
Check out the 2.21 beta here (http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/Betas/). It has a new option "Preview all cells" to let you preview any cell that has more than a couple I-frames.
Note: This is "tricky" (and I'll have to change the UI to reflect that)
In the preview panel, the "OK" button will behave differently:
- For cells that are normally skipped (no button etc),
*clicking OK will make it so the cell is skipped (as it would normally be).
*Clicking "Keep" will keep the cell animated. The slider is useless, except to see what's in the cell.
- For cells with buttons (the ones that are normally previewed)
*clicking OK saves the selected I-Frame, shrinks and keeps the cell.
*clicking "Keep" keeps the cell animated.

See if you like this, and also give me some ideas how to expose this "tricky" behavior to the user. The simplest idea I have is to change the "OK" button to a "Kill" button and change the tooltip text accordingly. Other suggestions are welcome...

jeanl

[dirio49]

Nice job
i like that you can select that what cells to shrink.
many be the ok button should be renamed to kill or shrink
nice job:)

[jeanl]

OK, I also changed the UI and the tooltips to reflect the difference between previewing a cell that should normally be killed (no buttons etc) and one that is normally kept.
The new version is 2.22 and is in the usual place (http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/Betas/).
jeanl

[blutach]

Thanks jean. :)

Regards

[zacoz]

This definitely sounds quicker than the VOBBlanker menu interface. I guess it's time I gave it a go - particularly with the latest improvements, as I like to sometimes keep certain menu's / intro's animated.

[LoloMc]

Unbe^%$#lievable...

Check this one out:
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/2661/foo4fm.png
That's "an american tail" R1 (kid movie).
I think I'm in #1 position (even though I'll admit there's more than just menus, lots of games and stuff in the menu domain).

Whatdoyousay?!


jeanl
P.S. Note: I even kept the audio!

I feel I'm now The one ;) (I kept the audio) "Final overallmenu size 121.13 MB -- Savings: 2278.65MB"

Blake and mortimer ""Le secret de l'espadon" & "L'affaire du collier""

[jeanl]

Arghhhhh! :devil:
Good job though! Can you post a screenshot so I can put you on the page?! That's unreal... 2.4GBs of menus?! Is there something like an interview in there?
Congrats man! :D
jeanl

[LoloMc]

Hi Jeanl

I already made a screenshot and attached it to the forum, but I think this should be autorized by a moderator (That's why it does not appear yet)

In fact all the "Blake & Mortimer" R2 Edition are similar (they all have around 2400 MB of menu...because they all have the SAME COMPLETE VIDEO in English/French/Italian and Portugues)
Each language is about 430 MB

NB : You'll find attached a image with the file with their sizes

LoloMc won ! :)

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[jeanl]

LoloMC, then it's really a valid record man! (even if it had been an interview, it would have been valid but here it's super valid if you will!).
To put pictures on the forum, it's easier to upload it to www.imageshack.com, then copy paste one of the links they provide. This way you don't have to wait for the moderators to authorize the attachment...
jeanl

[jeanl]

How about that! Check out VTS 2,3 and 4! All menu and no title! What the heck? Is that because you blanked them or were they like that to begin with? 10kB, looks to me like you blanked them! ;)
jeanl

[blutach]

I'm gunna re-author a DVD, with the main movie in the menu! That'll teach you all. Trouble is the languiages must be unspecified, IIRC.

Regards

[zacoz]

Sometimes I think authors just want to fill up the DL disc. I've seen several that include (rather than re-use) the same video several times. Could also be a byproduct of very ordinary authoring program that provides little flexibility I guess.

[jeanl]

Originally posted by zacoz
Sometimes I think authors just want to fill up the DL disc. I've seen several that include (rather than re-use) the same video several times. Could also be a byproduct of very ordinary authoring program that provides little flexibility I guess.
Sometimes it does feel that way. But remember that you can't always reuse cells (for example, from VTS to VTS). I've also seen DVDs that were so badly transfered it was hard to believe. barely 3GB for a 1:30 movie. You could see the pixellation and blocking without even looking hard. Some people have no sense of pride in their work!
Anyway, I'll be updating the home page to day...
jeanl
EDIT: The home was has been updated, LoloMc is now NUMBER 1 !!!

[LoloMc]

Originally posted by jeanl
How about that! Check out VTS 2,3 and 4! All menu and no title! What the heck? Is that because you blanked them or were they like that to begin with? 10kB, looks to me like you blanked them! ;)
jeanl

No jeanl, I didn't preprocessed anything ;)

If you look at the size of those files :
VTS_02_0.vob, VTS_03_0.vob, VTS_04_0.vob : each one of those files is a COMPLETE menu in different language. (In fact I was knowing this DVD for a long time now, but I only found your top #20, 1 week ago...) So I decided to be the number One for a little time ;)

Some septics may want to check ; This is the DVD :
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005OLIY/qid=1117021661/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_1_3/402-9792161-9412916

Regards,

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[mpucoder]

Every now and then a typographical error is really funny.
Sceptic - one who doubts
Septic - a putrefactive substance, rotten

[jeanl]

@LoloMC, I was simply pointing to the fact that the title domain in these VTS has a 10kB size... "all menu, no title"...
I'm definitely not septic! ;)
jeanl

[LoloMc]

Originally posted by mpucoder
Every now and then a typographical error is really funny.
Sceptic - one who doubts
Septic - a putrefactive substance, rotten

As mpucoder pointed it... my English level is hardly low :stupid:

So jeanl, I'm sorry, I had misunderstand and I'm not explaining very well... By the way, only by the respect that I dedicate you for menuschrink, I could not be offence by anything I could misunderstand from you :)

Regards,

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[jeanl]

Pas de probleme man, pas de probleme!
;)
jeanl

[jdle]

DVD shrink already has the function to shrink motion menu into still picture.. what else does this menu shrink do?

[zacoz]

@jdle: unless I'm mistaken, DVDShrink has capability to replace menu or title with a still frame which is played for the same length of time as original, however I believe you would lose all buttons (never tried replacing menu before in it).

MenuShrink however converts motion menu to a still menu while retaining all button functionality. You can choose to retain or remove audio, confirm each menu as it's processing and choose the motion menu frame to use as the still. There's probably more, but as I've only used it twice so far I can't recall off hand. Just give it a go, it's quick and easy, particularly if you don't need to process anything else in VobBlanker. MenuShrink only processes the menu's, so there's no overhead copying all the titles into a new directory (as happens when doing any processing with DVDShrink).

DVDShrink and MenuShrink really serve different purposes.

[nwg]

Originally posted by zacoz
@jdle: unless I'm mistaken, DVDShrink has capability to replace menu or title with a still frame which is played for the same length of time as original, however I believe you would lose all buttons (never tried replacing menu before in it).



You are half right. It does last the same length of time as the original but mneu buttons are retained and are fully functional. It shows a still frame every 0.5 seconds. Sometimes, black can be seen in the other 0.5 seconds.

DVD shrink already has the function to shrink motion menu into still picture.. what else does this menu shrink do?

Menushrink keeps a single still frame and not one every 0.5 seconds. A still framed menu by Shrink can still take up several 10's of MB. I have had one Menushrinked menu come out just 1.5MB.

[zacoz]

Originally posted by nwg
You are half right. It does last the same length of time as the original but mneu buttons are retained and are fully functional. It shows a still frame every 0.5 seconds. Sometimes, black can be seen in the other 0.5 seconds. I'm aware of this additional shrinking option, however this essentially gives you a smaller, motion menu (albeit far from smooth), therefore discounted this as what jdle was referring to. Possibly an incorrect assumption on my part.

In my book, MenuShrink or VobBlanker are the only way to go when it comes to shrinking menu's to stills.

[zacoz]

Here you go jeanl, a top 20 contender: :cool:

Dreamworks, "Sinbad", R4 - 961.58MB to 61.25MB (900.33MB saving) - audio retained.

I can actually trim it down further as it currently still contains 2 sets of menu's - English and Netherlands. Off to fire up PgcEdit & VobBlanker.

http://lorensmith.customer.netspace.net.au/images/sinbad_menu.jpg

[zacoz]

@jeanl: Noticed that on the MenuShrink page, the link to the forum under "Bugs? Suggestions?" actually points to the version 0.8 thread. Not sure if this was intended or an oversight.

[jeanl]

You're right, it's an oversight! Good job on Sinbad, I tried the R1 version but the savings were minimal... That puts you in 15th position! I won't be able to update the main page for at least 6 weeks, sorry about that! Remind me if I forget!
Jeanl

[jeanl]

MenuShrink Version 2.3 is here!
I created a new thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99691) for it, although I don't expect much traffic...
Jeanl