Weird ghosting artifact on DV capture

[SirCanealot]

Hi, all

I recently filed a Tekken 5 tournament in the UK. Unfortunately, when capturing, I'm getting some weird ghosting artifacts.

Here's a picture of the artifact in action: http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/T5Ghosting.png

Nasty, huh?

Here's a short sample (DV capture is so huge...!): http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/T5Sample.rar

Unfortunately, my webspace only allows one download at a time when linked to like that, so if you can't download, go to http://www.williams1.homechoice.co.uk/ and crtl+f through all the crap for the sample: you should be able to DL fine if you do that.

The tournament was filmed on my Thompson Scenium VMD10, and was filmed using progressive scan (which has worked fine before.
Now, I think the problem is coming from the tournament having been filmed on a Plasma TV. There was someone else filming there who put some stuff online (VHS camera though - bleh, what's the point? :P), and his encodes suffered from the same artifact. Now, I have no idea how this plasma TV was set up, but I didn't notice these artifacts on the viewfinder when it was being recorded, nor could I see these artifacts on the TV itself (although there was something odd about the image on the TV at times). Keep in mind these are PAL cameras filming NTSC screens (although mine has again done fine in the past; though I've had other artifacts from filming NTSC with PAL, they've been dealable with) :P

Now, I have a VAGUE idea that I'm stuffed here ^^
But I'm posting it here in the hope that someone has some ideas. Even something that reduces the ghosting would be better than nothing.

Also, does anyone think filming interlaced might help? I was thinking of filming the next one interlaced so I could try bobing to 50fps anyway (25fps of a 60fps game = bleh), so it'd be good if that helped.

This is probably going on a small DVD of the tournament finals, which I'll be selling to people at perhaps even a 30p profit :P
So, basically, I want it to look as good as possible...

So, anyone got my miracle? :D

Thanks, all

[Leak]

Originally posted by SirCanealot
This is probably going on a small DVD of the tournament finals, which I'll be selling to people at perhaps even a 30p profit :P
So, basically, I want it to look as good as possible...

So, anyone got my miracle? :D

Just one question - if this is going to be something seemingly semi-official, why didn't you just connect the console to a VCR (or a PC) and recorded it directly? :confused:

If your cam and the screen aren't in sync I'd not be surprised if something like this happens...

np: Sage Francis - Ground Control (A Healthy Distrust)

[SirCanealot]

Heh, you have to understand the UK gaming tournament scene is all about the bums/players themselves finding whatever venue they can, and running their own stuff :P

Camera is overall the best option (when you don't have problems like this) - not only do you record the atmosphere (which is a main thing I have against direct capture), but carrying a PC around is not acceptable (though a laptop could be doable); DV cameras are pretty small, and carrying a tripod is like 0 trouble to me.
Anyway, it's all about the atmsosphere. You just don't get that on a direct capture...

And about the 'sync' issue, a lot of other DV captures flicker (black bars going up and down screen) when they tape NTSC; however, this camera doesn't seem to suffer from that at least.

But I'm really not sure... ^^;;