need help with menus

[Xenophon]

Hallo!

First of all: This is a great forum and I have learned a lot of things here. But now I need some help.

I have a DVD which has different motion menus and I have striped off some stuff like trailers and subtitles. Now I want to fit the menus. My goal is to keep the motion menus and cut unnecessary menu entries completely out. I also plan to arrange the remaining entries new, if there is a gap between the entries from cutting. I know that it is possible to disable the buttons, but this is not what I want! I hope somebody has a solution for this and can explain it to me.

Xenophon

[lark]

welcome to the community xenphon.

i'd use vobblanker to blank out the menus you don't need
and pgcedit to tweak the dvd commands so that you'll never end up to those blanked menus,
but i'm afraid, you'll need quite a bit of knowledge to be able to tame the beast.

regards
t :)

[Xenophon]

Thanks for your answer lark!

I have tried it out, but I this is not what I want to do. My goal is to cut some menu entries complete out. I have already found a posting http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83630 and the pictures from Msc_Alex guide show exactly what I want to do. My problem is that this guide is for still menus I think and I have motion menus. Does anyone have a solution for this kind of menus?

[Msc_Alex]

Use a editing program instead of paint. (pinnacle, adobe premier, vitrualdub etc... and remux that m2v.)
I like to use premier 6.5 with the cce plugin to get my m2v.

[lark]

ok, now i got, what you want to do...

so i'd do something like
- decrypt
- open & 'blank' in avisynth
- encode
- remux
- remove buttons & edit commands

but 2nd step depends a lot about the background. this is pretty much similar to removing a logo, but imho there's no bullet proof way to get the original background.

regards
t :)

[Msc_Alex]

Anything is possible, it just takes time and persistance

You could replace it with a still -> see This (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/blutach/replacing_a_moving_menu_with_a_still_image.htm) guide.
[edit] or replace all the menus with stills with menushrink (http://jean.laroche.free.fr/MenuShrink/)
great work guys

But the way You would realy want it is to edit the moving menu and keep a moving menu, right ?

That's also possible it will take a little more time and a editing program. I did kill bill moving main menu this way.

Folow my guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=555936&highlight=edit+menu#post555936) al the way to the step were you would covert de VOB from the menu to a bmp(STEP 3). Do not convert it but demux the menu vob (with vobedit)(demux-> mpeg stream) and load the m2v in to a programme like adobe premiere (i like that one, but it's a bit hard if you havn't worked with this before) Here (http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotutorial/tutdes_quadpip.htm) is a good guide to place stuff over your video with premiere (there are other "free" ways).

There you can alter the menu movie (place a picture over some text or add text.) Then encode back to a new m2v (yes quality could suffer a bit, take a high bitrate) also don't forget to get it back in the same formate pal/ntsc 16:9 4:3 etc..

If your edit programme outputs it in a mpg formate then first demux audio and video. then jump back in the guide were you remux the new m2v menu (step 5) and folow the rest of the guide.

Let us know if it works :thanks:

[let]

and load the m2v in to a programme like adobe premiere (i like that one, but it's a bit hard if you havn't worked with this before) Here is a good guide to place stuff over your video with premiere (there are other "free" ways)

Hi!
Can you tell me the other ways to do that?
Thanks!

[manono]

Hi-

Can you tell me the other ways to do that?

What do you want to do? You said you want to remove some entry. So, you want to replace some text with just the background? If so, save a BMP and crop the BMP background to the size you want.

The freeest of ways to do it is to use the Overlay command in AviSynth. The Overlay command can place your background BMP or JPG, or M2V or just about anything, onto the motion menu at whatever location/position you'd like, while reencoding. I've done it a number of times. It would help greatly if you've had some AviSynth experience:

http://avisynth.org/index.php?page=Overlay

But maybe you have something else in mind.