Very new at this, just a basic question

[synbios1978]

First off, I'd like to say thanks for making this great program. I'm trying to encode some episodes from Babylon 5 so I don't have to switch DVD's whenever I want to watch an episode. I've ripped the dvd successfully to hard drive, but when I use Auto Gordian Knot (I've tried it at both reduce 1 episode down to 1/2 of a CD and I've tried the 100%, they both come back virtually the same with perfect audio/video sync, but the video in certain parts is "jumpy" where it almost looks like it's missing a frame or two and it seems to continue until the scene changes then it goes back to normal. It seems to be in the same place each time, and I've tried encoding it 4 times using both DivX and XVid options, and auto audio options. I didn't know if this was normal and to be expected or if there's something else I need to do to keep this from happening. Each episode is around 43 mins long, and the video quality is great except for the jumping.

Like I said, I'm really new to this and didn't know if this was normal or not.

Thanks,

-Synbios1978

[niamh]

What do you play it back on? computer or standalone? can we see your logfile(s)?

[synbios1978]

Thanks for the rapid response!!

Sorry about this, I posted it in the other Auto Gordian Knot forum, and was going to delete this one because I didn't realize I was in the Development post but you posted before I could... :-)

I've tried playing it back in Windows Media Player 10 and PowerDVD, and I get the same result in each.

I'm reencoding it so I can get the log entried for you so it may take a couple of hours for those.

Thanks again!!

-Synbios1978

Edit:

Here is the log file I receive after encoding using the 1/2 of a CD for 1 episode:

[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] AutoGK 1.95
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Job started.
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Input dir: D:\DVDImages\Babylon5\Season2\Episode1
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Output file: D:\DVDImages\Babylon5\Season2\Episode1\Episode1Test1.avi
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Audio: English
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Codec: XviD
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Target size: 350Mb
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Started encoding.
[3/30/2005 4:11:07 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/30/2005 4:13:52 PM] Processing file: D:\DVDImages\Babylon5\Season2\Episode1\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/30/2005 4:13:52 PM] Processing file: D:\DVDImages\Babylon5\Season2\Episode1\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/30/2005 4:13:52 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[3/30/2005 4:13:52 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/30/2005 4:13:52 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/30/2005 4:13:52 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/30/2005 4:17:50 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/30/2005 4:17:50 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/30/2005 4:18:33 PM] Found threshold of: 1.95
[3/30/2005 4:18:33 PM] Output will contain 62989 frames
[3/30/2005 4:18:33 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/30/2005 4:21:03 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/30/2005 4:22:14 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/30/2005 4:26:30 PM] Audio size: 41,940,408 bytes (40.00 Mb)
[3/30/2005 4:26:30 PM] Overhead: 2,519,552 bytes (2.40 Mb)
[3/30/2005 4:26:30 PM] Video size: 322,541,640 bytes (307.60 Mb)
[3/30/2005 4:26:30 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/30/2005 4:32:22 PM] Duration was: 5 minutes 52 seconds
[3/30/2005 4:32:22 PM] Speed was: 8.94 fps.
[3/30/2005 4:32:22 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 73.38
[3/30/2005 4:32:22 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x368 ( AR: 1.74 )
[3/30/2005 4:32:22 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 73.38
[3/30/2005 4:32:22 PM] Running first pass.
[3/30/2005 5:51:02 PM] Duration was: 1 hour, 18 minutes 39 seconds
[3/30/2005 5:51:02 PM] Speed was: 13.35 fps.
[3/30/2005 5:51:02 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 80.79
[3/30/2005 5:51:02 PM] Running second pass.
[3/30/2005 7:04:48 PM] Duration was: 1 hour, 13 minutes 45 seconds
[3/30/2005 7:04:48 PM] Speed was: 14.23 fps.
[3/30/2005 7:04:48 PM] Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 53 minutes 40 seconds
====================================================

[BigDid]

Originally posted by synbios1978
...I've tried playing it back in Windows Media Player 10 and PowerDVD, and I get the same result in each...
Hi,

Does your source - I mean the decrypted vob on your HD- plays fine with your players?
Could be related to intensive cpu use; in this case mediaplayerclassic (mpc) or videolan (vlc) could be less cpu intensive ...

Did

[synbios1978]

The original vob files play great in PowerDVD. I didn't try the originals in Windows Media Player since they were acting the same. I don't think it's the cpu load, as it only does it in the same spots. I tried to rip a different DVD as I also wanted to copy all the Star Trek Deep Space 9 DVD's I own, so I tried an episode of that with the same settings and it seemed to work fine. No jumpiness or anything. Now I'm not sure if this isn't a Babylon 5 issue, reason being is that when the show was first made, the show was done in widescreen but they had CG which I believe was originally full screen that they made into widescreen for the dvd's. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, but since so much of the show's backgrounds especially were done in CG, I don't know if that's the issue or what.

But the cpu processing power should be fine. I'm running an Athlon XP 1800 with only a couple background processes running with 1 gig of ram, so PowerDVD or Windows Media should be fine for processing power. Has anyone else tried ripping a B5 DVD??

Thanks,

-Synbios1978

[niamh]

[3/30/2005 4:17:50 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).

AutoGK has decided to IVTC the film, and since it's a hybrid, the truly interlaced parts come out jumpy(you are indeed missing a frame every other 5)
Hybrids are a female dog to encode, and you can never have it totally right. In your case, since the jumpiness is hard to bear, you will simply have to force deinterlacing in hidden options (unfortunately at a loss of visual quality, it's a trade-off)

[synbios1978]

Thanks for the information!! I'll give it a shot tonight and let everyone know the results!! Also, if I increased the size of the file, would it help the quality with deinterlacing turned on?

Thanks again!!

Synbios1978

[niamh]

As the compressibility is close to 75% already, I would say, not really in this case

[synbios1978]

Quick Question,

How do I get to the hidden options?? I'm familiar with dos and ini files if I need to go there, but I just wasn't sure how to access them in this app.

Thanks,

-Synbios1978

[niamh]

There's actually an extensive tutorial that comes with the app, which covers all this stuff and more :)

[synbios1978]

Great!! I'll definately take a closer look at it tonight then!! This really is a great, great program. BTW, for PC playback use, is there much of a difference between the xvid code and the divx codec?

Thanks,

-Synbios1978

[niamh]

Yes there is. XviD is much sharper and crispier, and somewhat more detailed (depending on matrix)
DivX is much smoother and blurrier, but might not show macroblocks as much.

[synbios1978]

Thanks for the information! I did reencode forcing deinterlacing and it did smooth things out, although I see what you mean by reducing the quality level. I think I'm going to have to wait a while before I continue ripping files though, as my system keeps crashing when I rip, although I think it only does it when I use the C drive as the place I rip everything instead of the external hard drive. I don't have anything overclocked, but my primary hard drive is a raid so I don't know if that may be causing it to get too hot or something, but I'll probably try to continue it on the external hard drive.

But, thanks for all the help though, and thanks again for this great program!!

-Synbios1978