DVDShrink: Armageddon Backup

[rollerboogie]

Hello,

just wanted to do a Backup of Armageddon (one of the first PAL-Discs with a third French track, later there was a new release with a spanish than french track, if I remember correctly cause of some incompatibility issues), cause it won't be played on my XBox, plays well on the STP but not on the XBox.

Therefore I loaded up DVDShrink. DVDShrink won't load it up directly. So I took DVDDecrypter to create an image, after upgrading to 3.5.3.0 it reads the disc and writes an image to hd, what it doesn't want to do by version 3.5.2.0. Next thing is to load the image by using daemon-tools, launching dvdshrink again and now it reads the disc-image normally. Did a deep-analysis and wanted to kick the french-track and some audio- & subtitle-tracks, after hitting backup, a requester tells me that the to be created image will be too big to fit on a new disc. The settings were all set to automatic (as usual) and correctly after processing the movie, the disc is 200MB too big! How comes that ? What can I do to make a backup that I can watch it on the xbox ? I upgraded DVDDecrypter to 3.5.4.0 and tried to create a new image, read the image in as "File", but always the same error, that the created disc will be 200 MB too big.

Maybe someone could help me with this one ?

[sweetness]

have you tried using the costumer ratio? or still image some of the unwanted stuff (fbi warnings, intros...) to get that green line under 4464.

or you can use vobblanker to blank those things out..

oh ya check under edit>preferences...>preference tab> to see what target size is. maybe you can set the custom size to be 4264

[rollerboogie]

yes, I tried all you described...

the disc has only the movie with a little menu on it and a little separate clip with the names of the adr-speakers that's all, no warnings or intros, the movie starts immediately after putting the disc in.
I don't want to give up the menu.

If I'm setting the custom size in the preferences dialog to 4264, green line shows this:

[...here should be a screen shot...]

green line gets shorter and is been labeled with 4,264 MB, red line stays at 4,686 MB

[rollerboogie]

OFF-TOPIC
ehm, I posted a screenshot of dvdshrink's green/red line, but it won't be shown in the last posting, why is that ?
If I'm going to re-edit the message it will show me that there is an attachment...weird...who can explain that behaviour ?

[jel]

OFF-TOPIC...who can explain that behaviour ? all attachments have to be approved by a moderator before they will appear with your post.

to be honest, i am not all that familiar with dvd shrink to comment on your problem, although i have read that it is possible to 're-shrink' your 'shrunk' output a second time to achieve your desired output size. although i would assume that the quality may not be acceptable.

good luck
j

[sweetness]

by the looks of it shrink doesn't want to compress it any more. you can do what jel said and 're-shrink' but the quality thing.
try using DVD Rebuilder with regij(transcoder) or quenc(free encoder) or cce($). doom9 has a nice guide on that and lots of info in the DVD Rebuilder forum too. give that a shoot, you might not use shrink again.

BTW does the subpictures ever end. that thing is almost as long as LOTR. :eek:

[rollerboogie]

@jel
ok, didn't know that...

@all
I'm trying to re-shrink it, but i guess the same, ugly picture...

To use CCE in a whole dvd would be nice, is it possible today. like a one-click-solution ?

[hf]

I've had similar things happen to me. In the past, I fixed
it by deleting the analysis files that DVDShrink creates.
I forget where they are located, somewhere under "Program Files"
or maybe "Documents and Settings". Hopefully someone can
tell you the correct location. Just delete all the files
and then open up the disk again, DVDShrink will analyse
the disk again and you should have a more normal display.

The other thing you can try is to just click the "Analysis"
button to let it go thru the whole disk doing a deep analysis.
I think I've tried this in the past too and it fixed the
problem.

[rollerboogie]

@hf
I let the disc be read into a file, lets say 3 or 4 times and I was trying different settings in DVDDecrypter, therefore DVDShrink was forced to re-initialiaze the "new" disc always, and I did the deep analysis as well, so I guess this couldn't be the problem, but I will try that surely, too :-) Thanks for the hint.

[rollerboogie]

after the horrible tests to find a working setup for DVD Rebuilder, the DVD is now rebuilt and able to be played on the xbox. Where other DVD-Re-Encoders/Transcoders failed, and I tested meanwhile a few others, DVD Rebuilder did it! Thanx for the hint to this tool!

DVDShrink just died :-)

[MSlv]

Do you have latest Nero installed? You can use Nero Recode (developed by the coder of DVD Shrink). I think it will do the job just fine, with higher picture quality and a bit faster.

What encoder have you used with Rebuilder? CCE?

[rollerboogie]

i used cce 2.7 and surely i'll never use Nero or any related software to that tool again, this crap of software only burns unconform cds and dvds...whatever dvdshrink died for me, cause i got DVD Rebuilder now :-) happy with that, hope it gets better in the next time.

[dannyv]

Originally posted by rollerboogie
i used cce 2.7 and surely i'll never use Nero or any related software to that tool again, this crap of software only burns unconform cds and dvds...whatever dvdshrink died for me, cause i got DVD Rebuilder now :-) happy with that, hope it gets better in the next time.

DVD Rebuilder is a fantastic program expecially when using cce with it. BUT I would'nt through out dvd shrink. I find dvd shrink great for doing movies that don't need a lot of compression. If I have a movie that needs 85% or better compression I always use shrink because its so fast but for the longer movies or episodic disks such as tv series I always use rebuilder. Each application has its spicific uses.

[Chetwood]

Originally posted by rollerboogie
i used cce 2.7 and surely i'll never use Nero or any related software to that tool again, this crap of software only burns unconform cds and dvds...whatever dvdshrink died for me, cause i got DVD Rebuilder now :-) happy with that, hope it gets better in the next time.

Great, so you switched over to a tool that allows more compression = less quality, good luck with that. Question: what's the point of keeping a menu when the movie starts anyway the moment you pop it into your player?