I'm getting Artifacts in the movie

[123bart]

Usually I encode with xvid and have just tried to encode to SVCD for the first time, but I'm getting a lot of artifacts in the SVCD. I have used dvd2svcd 1.2.2 build 3 and tried both TMPG and CCE. With CCE I have both been using CBR and Multipass VBR (4 pass), but with artifacts in all of them. I have tried to follow the doom9 guide, but obviously I've been doing something wrong. Does anyone have an idea what the reason might be.

[smiller667]

Hi & belated welcome to the board,

in order to help, people would probably need more information, such as source material, aspect ratio, length of movie, bitrate/no. of discs ... (most/all of) this information would be contained in the logfile, btw.

Steve

[123bart]

Originally posted by smiller667
Hi & belated welcome to the board,

in order to help, people would probably need more information, such as source material, aspect ratio, length of movie, bitrate/no. of discs ... (most/all of) this information would be contained in the logfile, btw.

Steve

Thank you for your reply, I'll remember that the next time. I did find the problem though. For those of you who might be interested the problem was in the program making the cd-image: VCDXBuild. So I just changed image program to VCDimager and it worked fine, but I could just get it to make permanent subtitles. I couldn't find I-author, so I had to find something else, and found VCDwizard which does excellent job.

bart

[jsoto]

the problem was in the program making the cd-image: VCDXBuild. I believe you're wrong... VCDXBuild is a very proven builder, and it is a CD-image builder. MPEG artifacts are usually related with encoding.
Where do you see the artifacts? Playing a burnt CD in a settop? Does the image (mounted with daemon-tools or other virtual CD SW) play fine in powerDVD?

jsoto

[123bart]

Originally posted by jsoto
I believe you're wrong... VCDXBuild is a very proven builder, and it is a CD-image builder. MPEG artifacts are usually related with encoding.
Where do you see the artifacts? Playing a burnt CD in a settop? Does the image (mounted with daemon-tools or other virtual CD SW) play fine in powerDVD?

jsoto

I agree with you. But I don't get the artefacts when using VCDImager or VCDWizard, why I don't now. I even tried VCDXbuild again after using VCDWizard and VCDImager just to be sure, because it does seem odd, but again the result had artefacts. I'm sry I don't have the original log anymore as it has been written over.

I have mounted the image both with deamon-tools and alcohol, and in both cases the artefacts are present in both powerdvd and media player classic. Of course it didn't help to write the image to a cd, but I had to be sure, even though it seemed stupid.
Why I suspected VCDXbuild is because I tried to play the mpeg-2 stream with and without subtitles, and no artefacts were to be seen in either case. As the subtitles are the last to added, it had to be the cdbuilder. When I changed cdbuiler the artefacts were there no more. So it couldn't be the encoding, which is what I suspected in the first place, as it hopefully is clear from my first contribution.

The artefacts are horizontal squares mostly in black, but sometimes in grey or red. They seem to be in places with both no motion and high motion.

I have a log from a movie made in exactly the same way, but without VCDXBuild or VCDImager, as I now use VCDWizard. It properly won’t help, but maybe it will. The VCDXBuild settings were does recommended by the doom9-guide.

Log: D2SRoBa
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D2SRoBa v3.60, by Tylo
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- WIN_XP - AutoIt 3.0.101.0
- 2005-03-22 20:10:55
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- Output type : SVCD
- CD size : 740
- Number of CD's : 3 (max 32)
- Threshold Q : 36
- Sample size : 1.0%
- Adjust estimated : 1.2%
- Cond. sizing pass : Yes (Transcode if opv sz > 0.0% oversize, and Q <= 40)
(Encode if opv sz < 2.5% undersize, or Q > 40)
- Cond. filtering : If configured, and estim. Q reaches above Threshold Q
- Audio after video : Yes (9% of video, min 224 kbps)
- Adjust max br : Yes (total: 2754, max avg offset: 300 kbps)
- Run mode : Normal
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- Waiting for CCE window ...
- Detected a CCE encode window
- Detected the movie encode window - shutting down
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- 2005-03-22 20:22:56
- Project dir: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\
- Avisynth setup: BicubicResize
- Configured cond. filter: None
- D2S ver. 1.2.2.3, CCE ver. 2.50.1.0
- Setting low process priority
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- Movie length : 01:51:47 (167682 frames, 25 fps)
- D2S audio select : 224 + 0 kbps
- D2S video calc. : 1555 kbps, 2 CDs
- Select ranges : every 1500, select 15 frames
- Sample frames : 1680
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Calculations:
- 3 CD: video_br=2453 (2453) audio_br=224+0 video_sz=2056619730 fill=100% cbr=1
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- Using num CDs : 3
- Target mpv br : 2453 (max 2530) kbps, size=2056619730 bytes
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- 2005-03-22 20:23:00
- Start movie CBR encoding (2453 kbps)
- CBR pass result: Speed: 2.13
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- 2005-03-22 21:15:35
- Executing: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -l 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -96 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
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- 2005-03-22 21:21:21
- Recover DVD2SVCD: Muxing
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- 2005-03-22 22:09:14
- D2SRoBa successfully finished
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Log: DVD2SVCD
WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 22-03-2005 20:11:38
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 3
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Initializing
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 22-03-2005 20:11:40
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x25 Language: Dansk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x28 Language: Italiano
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x27 Language: Hebrew
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Islenska
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Italiano
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x24 Language: Norsk
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Suomi
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x26 Language: Svenska

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
2 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 22-03-2005 20:11:55
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob,I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob,I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob,I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob,I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob,I:\DVD\Færdige\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 22-03-2005 20:14:14
- Free on drive C: 2024.05 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: Dansk Num. of subs: 980
SVCD Stream no: 2 Language: English Num. of subs: 1132

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 22-03-2005 20:19:39
- Free on drive C: 4947.45 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3

Audio1 delay: -96 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 22-03-2005 20:22:01
- Free on drive C: 5096.93 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Tylo\BeSweetLater.bat" -core( -input "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -l 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -96 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 22-03-2005 20:22:09
- Free on drive C: 5096.93 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1543075576
AudioSectors: 190570324
VideoPAPO: 20951028
ScanOffsetBytes: 201218
SeqAligningBytes: 12788547
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 13244540
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 1305319910.85
Seconds: 6715.28
CalcMPEGStream: 1305319910.85
Frames: 167682
CDSize: 740.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 729.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 167682
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: One Pass VBR
Q. Factor: 1
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 1555
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
MPEG2Source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
Import("C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

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- 22-03-2005 21:21:25
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 3
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Initializing
-
Initializing finished.

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- 22-03-2005 21:21:26
- Free on drive C: 5096.06 mb
- Restarting from: Muxing and Cutting
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- 22-03-2005 21:21:28
- Free on drive C: 5096.06 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 22-03-2005 21:21:31
- Free on drive C: 5096.05 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 22-03-2005 21:21:33
- Free on drive C: 5096.05 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 22-03-2005 21:21:35
- Free on drive C: 5096.05 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 1
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 729 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2233 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2234
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 729 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2233 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 4467
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 729 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 22-03-2005 21:33:22
- Free on drive C: 2908.45 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2235.288 seconds C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2235.360 seconds C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2240.352 seconds C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2235
Length of C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2235
Length of C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2240
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- 22-03-2005 21:34:29
- Free on drive C: 2906.91 mb
- Multiplexing SVCD Subtitles
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Muxing Dansk subtitles, CD 1
Muxing English subtitles, CD 1
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg" -l "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\SubLog1.txt" -s0 "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\da1-1.sub" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed00.mpg" -s1 "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\en2-1.sub"
Muxing Dansk subtitles, CD 2
Muxing English subtitles, CD 2
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg" -l "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\SubLog2.txt" -s0 "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\da1-2.sub" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed01.mpg" -s1 "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\en2-2.sub"
Muxing Dansk subtitles, CD 3
Muxing English subtitles, CD 3
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg" -l "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\SubLog3.txt" -s0 "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\da1-3.sub" "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed02.mpg" -s1 "C:\Programmer\DVD2SVCD\Movie\subs\en2-3.sub"
Muxing subtitles finished
Image creation finished.

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- 22-03-2005 21:39:49
- Free on drive C: 706.59 mb
- Conversion done!
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I have an AMD 2500+-M CPU and 4-bit bios, so the CPU is not being recognized properly. Maybe that’s the problem even though it has never been a problem before, but that’s just a shot in the dark.

Please excuse my English I don’t use it as much as I should.

Best regards
bart

[jsoto]

Well, I'm lost. No idea what is happening in your case... I rarely use subs in SVCD (my settop does not like them), may be I can do some tests...

jsoto