Great Program

[WoundedVeins]

Loving the program, works a charm. Able to compress my DVD movies onto my PC with no problems what so ever.

It takes me about 1 hour 10 mins to encode a 1hour 30minute 850MB XviD/AC3 file, is that good?

Anyway many thanks.

[LordBug]

Gosh, what's your system specs?

I find that my total encodings take about twice the movie length (eg 30min episode = 1hr encoding). That's on an Athlon XP2600+. Usually I follow two rules - 5megs per minute (Episodes), or 700meg straight (Movies).

[chilled]

maybe he is doing quality based encodings (only one pass)

[WoundedVeins]

I do all my encoding (2 passes)

My system specs are as follow:

Intel Pentium 4 - 3.4GHz Processor with HT Technology (1MB Cache)
1024 MB (1GB) DDR RAM - Dual Channel Memory
320 GB Hard Disk - 2 x 160GB Hard Drives
250 GB External Hard Disk Drive

[cyberVera]

Encoding speed depends on CPU speed only. Athlon 2600 is just 2.0-2.2GHz compared to Pentium's 3.4GHz. Even Celeron will be faster than Athlon. AMD processors are great for everyday computing but are the worst choice for mpeg-4-like encoding. Memory, HDD, chipset are not so critical at all.
Besides, Pentium has extra advantages compared to Celeron due to extra optimizations (+10-15% increase added to core speed).
You can easily check this by looking through www.futuremark.com. Part of their PCMark2004 is a DivX benchmark. Compare results of Athlon and Pentium owners.

[cyberVera]

In reality I found his difference even bigger.

http://www.fcenter.ru/img/article/CPU/Intel_Celeron_D_and_AMD_Sempron/49708.gif

Also: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/lowend-cpus-aug2k4/

[woah!]

post a log of 1 of your encodes plz, i would like to see how your encodes are in size/res/etc and the final speeds in fps thx.

trying to compare a revE P4 3.4HT to a 2600+ athlon is like comparing a A64 4000+ to a 3ghz Celly when running pifast. that would be no contest aswell. i want to see how much more this P4 has over my A64 3000+ 754 at 2300mhz.

[chilled]

having the source in one hard drive and the output in the other also increases encoding speed

[WoundedVeins]

So I should have the source in D and the output file in C and it will be little bit faster?

This one below took me 1 hour 20 minutes and is 800mb XviD/AC3 2 pass so was must of added one up wrong.

I keep all my logs for all my encodings so will work up an average.


[15/03/2005 05:25:55] AutoGK 1.60
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Job started.
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Input dir: D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Output file: D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\Jim Davisons Live Sinderella 2.avi
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Audio: English
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Subtitles: none
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Codec: XviD
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Target size: 800Mb
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Started encoding.
[15/03/2005 05:25:55] Demuxing and indexing.
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Processing file: D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\VTS_04_1.VOB
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Processing file: D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\VTS_04_2.VOB
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Processing file: D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\VTS_04_3.VOB
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Processing file: D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\VTS_04_4.VOB
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Source resolution: 720x576
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Found PAL source.
[15/03/2005 05:26:50] Analyzing source.
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 76.63
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Source is considered to be interlaced.
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Found 124960 frames
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Audio size: 139,954,304 bytes (133.47 Mb)
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Overhead: 1,483,904 bytes (1.42 Mb)
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Video size: 697,422,592 bytes (665.11 Mb)
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Running compressibility test.
[15/03/2005 05:29:22] Writing the following script to D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\agk_tmp\Jim Davisons Live Sinderella 2_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\agk_tmp\Jim Davisons Live Sinderella 2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 704
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Duration was: 4 minutes 25 seconds
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Speed was: 23.56 fps.
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Compressibility percentage is: 25.56
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Using softer matrix.
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Using softer resizer.
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Chosen resolution is: 480x272 ( AR: 1.76 )
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Predicted comptest value is: 55.14
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Running first pass.
[15/03/2005 05:33:48] Writing the following script to D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\agk_tmp\Jim Davisons Live Sinderella 2_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\filters\undot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVDSOF~1\AutoGK\filters\kerneldeint.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("D:\Movies\Jim Davisons Sinderella 2\agk_tmp\Jim Davisons Live Sinderella 2.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.42222222222222
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 480
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
KernelDeInt(movie,order=1,sharp=true)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0)
Undot()
BicubicResize(out_width,out_height,0,0.5)
===========================================================
[15/03/2005 06:06:21] Duration was: 32 minutes 33 seconds
[15/03/2005 06:06:21] Speed was: 63.96 fps.
[15/03/2005 06:06:21] Expected quality of first pass size: 51.09
[15/03/2005 06:06:21] Running second pass.
[15/03/2005 06:46:53] Duration was: 40 minutes 31 seconds
[15/03/2005 06:46:53] Speed was: 51.39 fps.
[15/03/2005 06:46:53] Job finished.

[Sharktooth]

Originally posted by cyberVera
In reality I found his difference even bigger.

http://www.fcenter.ru/img/article/CPU/Intel_Celeron_D_and_AMD_Sempron/49708.gif

Also: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/lowend-cpus-aug2k4/

BS. Use Xvid, VirtualDub and AMD socket 939 CPUs and look again at the results... :)

[cyberVera]

Yes, true. I hadn't noticed XviD mentioned...
Thus, cpu core speed and Intel architecture is more critical for DivX.
Contrary, XviD "loves" Athlon, and its results may be higher.

[woah!]

well i tried to use some source that was close to your setup:

i ended up with the same video size but had to use source with 14000 more frames than yours.


Target size: 800Mb
Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 480 pixels (because yours is 480x272 i had to lock my source at that)
Custom audio settings: AC3
Source seems to be pure FILM.
Output will contain 140897 frames
Audio size: 141,033,888 bytes (134.50 Mb)
Overhead: 1,673,088 bytes (1.60 Mb)
Video size: 696,153,824 bytes (663.90 Mb)

===========================================================
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 43 seconds
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Speed was: 43.03 fps.
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 97.09
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Chosen resolution is: 480x272 ( AR: 1.76 )
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 97.09
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Running first pass.
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Writing the following script to G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1_movie.avs
===========================================================

[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Duration was: 33 minutes 6 seconds
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Speed was: 70.93 fps.
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 73.28
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Running second pass.
[3/25/2005 4:06:45 PM] Duration was: 43 minutes 46 seconds
[3/25/2005 4:06:45 PM] Speed was: 53.65 fps.




now because i use a DXN profile to make sure my encodes work on my standalone, this encode re-encoded the first pass to switch b-frames off. so my total encode time for 3 passes is what you see below.

[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] AutoGK 2.01b
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Job started.
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Input file: VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Output file: G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.avi
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Audio: Audio Stream 2
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Format: .AVI
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Target size: 800Mb
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 480 pixels
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Custom audio settings: AC3
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Started encoding.
[3/25/2005 2:12:17 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Processing file: G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Processing file: G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_2.VOB
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Processing file: G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_3.VOB
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Processing file: G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_PGC_01_4.VOB
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Source aspect ratio: 16:9
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Source seems to be pure FILM.
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Output will contain 140897 frames
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Using bitrate spikes control.
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Audio size: 141,033,888 bytes (134.50 Mb)
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Overhead: 1,673,088 bytes (1.60 Mb)
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Video size: 696,153,824 bytes (663.90 Mb)
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/25/2005 2:14:02 PM] Writing the following script to G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 480
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(300,15)
===========================================================
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 43 seconds
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Speed was: 43.03 fps.
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 97.09
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Chosen resolution is: 480x272 ( AR: 1.76 )
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 97.09
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Running first pass.
[3/25/2005 2:16:46 PM] Writing the following script to G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 480
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Duration was: 33 minutes 5 seconds
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Speed was: 70.96 fps.
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 100.00
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Trying to adjust settings.
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Switching b-frames off
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Chosen resolution is: 480x272 ( AR: 1.76 )
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 74.50
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Re-running first pass.
[3/25/2005 2:49:52 PM] Writing the following script to G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\!ALLPR~1\!DVDPR~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("G:\!!!Movies\! DVDs_Decrypted\LADDER_49\VIDEO_TS\agk_tmp\VTS_01_PGC_01_1.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 1.18518518518519
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = input_par > 1.4 ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 480
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Duration was: 33 minutes 6 seconds
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Speed was: 70.93 fps.
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 73.28
[3/25/2005 3:22:58 PM] Running second pass.
[3/25/2005 4:06:45 PM] Duration was: 43 minutes 46 seconds
[3/25/2005 4:06:45 PM] Speed was: 53.65 fps.
[3/25/2005 4:06:45 PM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 54 minutes 27 seconds



i dont see much difference at all in cpu power, and my setup is alot cheaper than a 3.4ghz P4 system.

my chip go's for about Canadian $179.00 and the mobo $185.00 = $364

P4 3.4ghz at the same place is $370 and then you have to get the board yet. i feel abit better now knowing my cheapness was worthwhile :)

[WoundedVeins]

I bought this machine for gaming, so proves that a p4 3.4GHz (1mb cache) with HT technology aint all that.

Buts its good for games which is all I need it for, and this system.