Benchmark: DVD Rebuilder + CCE versus the transcoders

[colemar]

You may be interested in this benchmark since it involves DVD Rebuilder:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91319

[jdobbs]

As I said in the other thread. You can't compare encoders with SSIM. No one who has experience and has seen the output of both could truly come to the conclusion that any transcoder can even come close to outperforming CCE (except in cases where the original disc was seriously overengineering in terms of bitrate) -- they realize how laughable that conclusion really is.

As I've said before -- I didn't write CCE, so I can't take the credit for its superior quality.

But please.... you might as well be talking astrology... I believe is mathmatics.

[onesoul]

IMHO any transcoder can be better than cce when it deals with interlaced content.

Why can't cce produce good interlaced quality :confused:

[jdobbs]

You know, I really don't have a problem with CCE and interlaced, especially when using one of the newer versions. What is it that you see in it that bothers you?

[Video Dude]

Look below to see what the author of DVDShrink had to say about interlace and transcoders.

Originally posted by dvdshrink
Interlaced material usually ends up looking worse in transcoders, because the second video field is predicted from the first field, so you get an error propagation nightmare.Source: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80279&perpage=5&pagenumber=10 (4th post down)


Other quotes by dvdshrink about interlaced:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70983#post446096
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70983#post447836

[fewtch]

For some reason, the extras on my DVD's (which are usually interlaced) don't look bad at all after DVDShrink compression. I typically use a really high compression ratio too (like 46% (as in 54% displayed in the program)). If it was really that bad, they should be a mass of moving blocks rather than displaying a picture.

P.S. I see the old "transcoder" vs. encoder wars are still alive and well... :rolleyes:

[gizzin]

DVDshrink transcode anything better than a commercial encoder like CCE is just laughable.

[fewtch]

Hasn't this been covered to death already on an old thread (recently resurrected)? Complete with lots of rudeness and borderline flames... :rolleyes:

P.S. are you guys comparing using CCE Basic? I would assume so, unless your DVD collections are so big to make it worth the $1950 for the encoder.

[jdobbs]

Of course there are those among us who own it for professional reasons other than backups...

[dragongodz]

would it not be better to close this thread and people can reply in the other one ? thats what i have done.

[jdobbs]

Done.