Toshiba SD-R5112 Problem? Help.........

[maksa]

I have SD-R5112 burner with X033 (RPC-1 patched) firmware. It was burning Memorex correctly @ x4 speed. Memorex is CMC Magnetics AE1 brand, so I taught that using Khypermedia (also CMC Magnetics AF1 brand)sholuld be the same. Alas, Toshiba wouldn't burn it faster than x1. So, I patched firmware with X433 (same as X033 with removed list of "approved" media). It worked like charm. I burned over 100 Khypermedia discs w/o problems. But lately, something odd started. After burning x4, my Ronin (and PC) would read it, but my Cyberhome 300 wouldnt recognize it as DVD, even Memorex that is on "approved list". I switched back to the original firmware X033 and no change. It says it is DVD-R and no compatible files detected. If I burn x2 or even x1 (sic!) everything is OK for Cyberhome.
Any ideas? Maybe my laser is dying after 200-over burns, or who knows.
Suggestions welcome, simillar experience too... :confused:

[Surf]

khypermedia, from Tigerdirect perhaps? A shot in the dark here, maksa, why not try other medias, such as Ritek or Taiyo? If you still face the same result then it's time to say sayonara to the Tosh for now the new faster burners are sooo inexpensive.

[maksa]

Are they so bad? With first 75 i had no problem. But, now I have problem with Memorex from Futureshop, so you may be right, looking into new burner - maybe DL. They have Tosh for 90 bucks canadian.

[Surf]

lol, I didn't imply that Khypermedia is bad, I have never used it myself. I have been hearing good approvals on Riteks and Taiyo Yuden. Futureshop put Maxell on sale now and then, it's made by Taiyo, one of the best according to those who care about the this n that of disk quality.

I recommend the latest NEC #3520A I think. NEC models are supposed to support bit-setting for compatiblity to play in older standalones. You can pick one up for around $80-90 OEM(small local putershop). My current Pioneer 8x is chugging along fine(touch wood). I hope you already have a DVDrom reader for decrypting purpose? If not, Liteon 16x is so el cheapo at around $30 is worth you while to pick one up as well.

P.S. give www.cdrinfo.com a visit, they reviews a lot of burners there. Tosh somehow never meets the mark which is surprising for I have good impression of their quality, tv wise at least.

[maksa]

Deffinitely considering NEC. Tosh is a "working horse", 200-over discs is impressive for 50$ (Canadian) unit (dime-a-disc). I had in mind SD-R5372 (fastest DL burning, no matter there is no media tu burn yet :p ).
Khypermedia and Memorex are made by CMC Magnetics (DVDInfo said so!?), one is AF1 and the other is AE1. I will give Ritek try, jus bought Radius for FREE (a.k.a "Rebate"). It looks decent, worked simillar in my old Tosh - 2x fine, 4x conditional coaster (Cyberhome doesn't recognise it!).

[Surf]

Cyberhome sounds like a $39.99 special from Wal-Mart.;)

I have two faithful JVCs, not bad. The older one(1st generation) won't recognise DVD+r. The newer one will. Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath for the dual layer medias and my recommendation does NOT have that in mind. By the way, these so called 16x ratings are foooey. The burner is at that speed for only a matter of seconds!!

P.S. Why not take them disks that won't be recognised by Cyberhome and try them out with other dvd standalones? This could eliminate one of the culprits Tosh or CH.

[maksa]

Any comments? It looks like decent drive for the money $79 Canadian @ PC Village.

[Surf]

I was told by the distributor that LG has a liberal policy of returns of lemons instead of going thru 20 questions....

Try visit www.cdrlabs.com in which NEC is favorably reviewed. I would be leaning towards it strictly due to the fact of bit-setting capability for compatiblity with old players. Not the 16x part nor the DL part.

Prices/quality are so neglibly close now that you just say a prayer that you don't land up with a lemon.

[maksa]

Under your influence I went and bought NEC ND-3520A. Cost is 85$ CAD + tax. Send me your e-mail, so if anything goes wrong I ship it to you for refund.LOL!
Seriously, review from cdrlabs was very positive and I have learned that some guy on this forum had problem running LG as second burner in the system, so I went for NEC. I am going to play with it and report my experience. Thanks again for your help.:D
Maksa

[maksa]

Just to conclude, I went and installed ImageTools Burn and Classic. Burned one disc with DVDDecripter+ImageToolsClassic @ 4x and was OK in my standalone CH. Burned another one with ImageTools Burn and was OK as well. Nero 5.5.10.50 was culprit for some reason. Discs made with Nero were not readable in CH. Burner was still Tos SD-R5112 with x433 firmware.
Image tools is a great piece of software. Some problems getting to run it, uses Neroapi.dll, so I had to remove Nero and install it again with ver. 6.0.5, then it worked. It is faster than Nero in burning, 14:36 v.s. 13:09 @ 4x for the same disc. And it does better job with PI/PIO errors.

Interesting reading here:

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=258338

[Surf]

NERO 5.5. !!!:rolleyes: But but but, that shouldn't be THE cause, not after 200 burns...

Also try this:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=88606&highlight=32k

In case you haven't heard of PGCedit, I highly recommend it.

Lastly, I am not 100% certain at this point, regarding bit-setting capability being removed in the new model...... :o

Please confirm.

P.S. Interesting info, BestBuy has Fuji 8x 50s spindles at $25ea. I myself can't stand 4x wait time(14-15min). Having been burning at 8x and see no biggy with 12-16x burns. 2min diff with 8x. PI/PO count seem respectable @8x.

[maksa]

I was surprised too. It is not big compatibility issue, but probably error corrrection algorithm in CyberHome. Image tools works like breeze, DVDdecripter too. I have heard (and using it a lot, even donated) of PGCEdit, just never used it to burn anything, I think it can make Image and then uses Decripter for burning - not sure.

I bought NEC 3520 and put Nero 6.0 OEM that came with the drive. Maybe it is that, ImgTools uses NeroAPI.dll and it wouldn't work with 5.5.
Used hacked V1.04 firmware and new LD3520 1.7U (beta) firmware on Khypermedia and Fuji (from Best Buy), both DVD-R, works up to 8x and time for full 4.7GB is about 9 mins.

Havent tried DVD+R yet, but checked bitsetting, it could be done for DVD+R_DL, others are grayed.

Fuji is actually ProdiscF1(Hong Kong), (DVD Identifier), not Fujifilm media, that is the reason on cheapness. Still better than Khyper.

[Surf]

My understanding of burning with PGCedit/IMGtool/Decrypter is that PGCedit would "magically" inflate all the files to a minimum of 32k for extra protection. The videohelp's observation gave Decryptor high marks in quality burning. Lastly you may try bit-setting inside Decrypter too. Prodisc? Uh-oh. Not many good things have been said of it. 8x minusR Riddata(Ritek) at Computer Warehouse Outlet currently sells for $26 and Futureshop's 4x Maxells have been Taiyo Yuden's. Then again, Maxell may change manufacturers...

[Centurione]

this post just to say that I had exactly the same problem with a SDR-5112 same patch (before X033 than X433) and memorex disks (CMC magnetic).
I burned someone at 1X, other at 4X (when I found X433).
It ended up that my Toshiba, after a while, was unable to read the burned disks, even if they played fine in the stand-alone.
No problems with TDK or Verbatim.
It did not recognised them as DVD (locked in some strange state).
What I did is switch to Verbatim disks (MCC) and use Classic + DVDDecrypter or PGCEdit (that make use of the same programs).
Never a coaster from that time (I burned about 20 disks).
I used Imagetool classic before, I think it use Nero dll, so I still thinking that Nero has something to do with this, but I had no time to investigate (nor I wanted to risk other disks).

It is interesting to see someone with the same identical problem.

regards.

[maksa]

this post just to say that I had exactly the same problem with a SDR-5112 same patch (before X033 than X433) and memorex disks (CMC magnetic).

I wasn't imagining things. It is very wierd. I tried yesterday with Nero 6.0.28 (OEM) that came with Toshiba and same disk & movie that failed before and it works fine now. Must be Nero, firmware is still X433.:confused: :angry:

[Surf]

Here's a goody for your new NEC toy:

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/178/1

[maksa]

I was there before I bought it. :) Flashed firmawre 5 times so far, playing with various media, firmware and speeds. In a week didn't burn any useful DVD, just data discs from Nero CDspeed an they confirm what I have found at:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86

All in all, good show, just my Tosh is up and running again (@4x) and I feel bad not using it after so many bruns.

Thanks anyway...:thanks: