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LaoTze
17th February 2005, 09:34
Hi y'all

I tried ripping Shrek 2 (main movie only) using the Big 3 and all of the tools from the Forum's title, but I can't seem to find the CCE encoded movie files... :confused:

Here's what I've done...
I've carefully done all the steps in the Scenarist NT & the big 3 new (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/scenaid.htm) guide using all of the Forum's tools:
DoItFast4U
BatchCCEWS & CCE
NuMenu4U
ScenAid
Sonic Scenarist


After I'm done with Scenarist I have the following things in my DIF4U working dir....

Batch_1\
D_VTS_14_0\
VIDEO_TS\
VTS11\
VTS14\
VTS17\
CCEdata.txt
doitfast4u.log
doitfastnotes.txt
NuMenu4U.LOG
NuMenu4u_Recovery.LOG
REJIGdata.txt
Update_Menu_Ifo.bat

I should be ready for "Step 5: Putting it all back together" but I can't find the CCE encoded VOB files I should be merging with the untouched files, according to the Guide. Where should these files reside...?

Here's an excerpt from my Demux\Video_ts dir where you can see that SOME files of the main movie have been newly created, but certainly not all files.

VTS_13_0.BUP 12.288 02-09-2004 05:05 -a--
VTS_13_0.IFO 12.288 02-09-2004 05:05 -a--
VTS_13_1.VOB 366.592 02-09-2004 05:05 -a--

VTS_14_0.BUP 133.120 15-02-2005 23:30 -a--
VTS_14_0.IFO 133.120 15-02-2005 23:30 -a--
VTS_14_0.VOB 331.821.056 15-02-2005 23:30 -a--

VTS_15_0.BUP 12.288 02-09-2004 05:13 -a--
VTS_15_0.IFO 12.288 02-09-2004 05:13 -a--
VTS_15_1.VOB 366.592 02-09-2004 05:13 -a--
VTS_16_0.BUP 12.288 02-09-2004 05:13 -a--
VTS_16_0.IFO 12.288 02-09-2004 05:13 -a--
VTS_16_1.VOB 366.592 02-09-2004 05:13 -a--


I should mention that I've installed all the latest tools required, but I get a message from NuMenu4U saying...
Pulldown.exe has been removed. Errors may occur
I did notice a file "revpulldownmenu.exe" in the NuMenu4U directory. However I have not opted for 2:3 pulldown in DIF4U so I don't understand why it reports as missing...

Anybody has a clue to what I'm not doing right...? Any help would be appreciated. Please tell me what log files you need, because there are so many.

LaoTze
17th February 2005, 15:12
I have attached the most significant log files.

-edit: though I can't see the attachment myself, it says it's there when editing this post. Can anyone see my attachment...? :cool:

jel
17th February 2005, 23:52
LaoTze,

your attachments have to be approved by a moderator before they will be seen

anyways, where to start? i think your biggest problem stems from this entry in the dif4u log:21:41:21) Your current choices are not capable of being used to create a dvdr under 4.37 gigs
(21:41:21) Continue at your own risk!and additionally:(00:11:40) CCE Recommended values: VTS 14 MaxBitrate= 8584 AvgBitrate= -35
(00:11:40) CCE Recommended values: VTS 14 MaxBitrate= 8584 AvgBitrate= -35 oh and this:I tried ripping Shrek 2 (main movie only) using the Big 3

the big 3 method is NOT for main movie only back-ups. all of the authors/moderators/users of these tools feel very strongly about retaining the ENTIRE disc in all its dvd glory, and not butchering the hell out of it.

the misunderstanding you have made is that when you deselect a vts in dif4u it does not get removed. instead it is copied as is, into your demux directory.

there are many other tools avaliable for main movie only processing ... now, if you want to make full disc back-up, please post back with any queries that you might have and we will help you out as best we can ... if not, well ....

good luck
j

oh ... almost forgot.... welcome to the forum.

LaoTze
18th February 2005, 08:21
Thanks for the info Jel.

The reason I take on "The Big 3" is I want to retain as much of its original quality. I started out retaining all assets of the DVD but that didn't work out either. I got the same result so that's when I decided to have another go with just the main movie.

I noticed the DiF4U warning about not being able to create a DVDR under 4,37 Gigs. Since it says "Continue at your own risk" I assumed it would just process everything as normal, except I might end up with files too large. Is that assumption correct...? My problem is I can't find the newly encoded main movie altogether, not even files that should be too large.
One thing I don't understand. You mentioned...

(00:11:40) CCE Recommended values: VTS 14 MaxBitrate= 8584 AvgBitrate= -35
(00:11:40) CCE Recommended values: VTS 14 MaxBitrate= 8584 AvgBitrate= -35

Is there something wrong with this...? I have turned up the bitrate a bit during the process and set Multipass VBR for main movie only. Is the negative AvgBitrate posing some sort of problem...?

In any case, thanks for the help so far. I'll have another go at the entire disc and see what happens.
:cool:

jel
18th February 2005, 14:33
the -35 value indicates a negative bitrate .... trust me.... you are not going to proceeed very far with this... what you are ultimately looking for is a birate somewhere along the lines of 3000 kbps + or -