Scenaid log error PAL-->NTSC conversion

[rmtaibo]

Found this error :angry:
This was after Scenaid and when Scenarist was importing script file:

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Warning The duration of MPEG video file "C:\RATTLE_AND_HUM\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.I-TFF.16~9_1.nopull.mpv" has changed.

Error The height of MPEG video file "C:\RATTLE_AND_HUM\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.I-TFF.16~9_1.nopull.mpv" has changed.

Error Importing failed
----------------------------------------------------------------

Can someone help?

What I'm doing wrong?

[rmtaibo]

Attached Scenaid/Scenarist LOG error

[rmtaibo]

Well, Maybe I was a little desperate.
After seen the window error message, Scenarist was still working around.
It began multiplexing and I was surprised when it was making the Video_TS folder with all VTS files...

So, a good advice could be open your Task Manager Window to monitor the CPU use of Scenarist..

Well, I'm happy because I made my first sucessfully conversion from a PAL to NTSC movie

I just finished burn my DVD+RW and It works very good.

Menus working (No sound, because there's no audio in original DVD menu)
Chapters works very good
Video smooth and with no artifacts. Great quality video with CCE

But not all could be perfect...
I forgot to move the position of all subtitles (Oh my god, about 5.380 subtitles distributed in 24 different languages streams) :(

Because the 574 pixels height of PAL screen, the subtitles are out of bottom screen... I need to move 100 pixels upside to fix it in 480 pixels height of NTSC screen...

[rmtaibo]

Well, I took a look inside of subtitles' folder. I found a *.sst file and a lot of *.bmp files with 720x574 pixels size...

I was thinking if I could modify the sst files, that looked as:



-------------------------------------------------------------------
st_format 2
Display_Start non_forced
TV_Type PAL
Tape_Type NON_DROP
Pixel_Area (0 573)
Directory C:\RATTLE_AND_HUM\VTS01\subs\VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL
Subtitle VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian
Display_Area (0 2 719 574)
Contrast (15 15 15 0)

PA (0 0 255 === )
E1 (255 0 0 === )
E2 (0 0 0 === )
BG (255 255 255 === )

SP_NUMBER START END FILE_NAME
Color (2 4 5 3)
Contrast (9 13 0 13)
0001 00:00:11:13 00:00:15:05 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0001_v001_c001.bmp
0002 00:00:15:11 00:00:17:05 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0002_v001_c001.bmp
0003 00:05:12:22 00:05:14:18 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0003_v001_c003.bmp
0004 00:05:15:03 00:05:18:14 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0004_v001_c003.bmp
0005 00:05:21:17 00:05:23:17 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0005_v001_c003.bmp
0006 00:05:26:04 00:05:29:06 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0006_v001_c003.bmp
0007 00:05:30:13 00:05:32:23 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0007_v001_c003.bmp

*
*
*
(...)
*
*
-------------------------------------------------------------------

And change the header to:




-------------------------------------------------------------------
st_format 2
Display_Start non_forced
TV_Type PAL --> change it to NTSC
Tape_Type NON_DROP
Pixel_Area (0 573) --> change it to (0 473)
Directory C:\RATTLE_AND_HUM\VTS01\subs\VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL
Subtitle VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian
Display_Area (0 2 719 574)--> change it to (0 2 719 474)

Contrast (15 15 15 0)

PA (0 0 255 === )
E1 (255 0 0 === )
E2 (0 0 0 === )
BG (255 255 255 === )

SP_NUMBER START END FILE_NAME
Color (2 4 5 3)
Contrast (9 13 0 13)
0001 00:00:11:13 00:00:15:05 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0001_v001_c001.bmp
0002 00:00:15:11 00:00:17:05 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0002_v001_c001.bmp
0003 00:05:12:22 00:05:14:18 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0003_v001_c003.bmp
0004 00:05:15:03 00:05:18:14 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0004_v001_c003.bmp
0005 00:05:21:17 00:05:23:17 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0005_v001_c003.bmp
0006 00:05:26:04 00:05:29:06 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0006_v001_c003.bmp
0007 00:05:30:13 00:05:32:23 VTS_01_VSUB_P1A1-00-WL-Slovenian_0007_v001_c003.bmp

*
*
*
(...)
*
*
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Then, resize (or crop) all bmp's from 720x576 to 720x480 pixels

And finally reload manually the *.scp file in Scenarist and press the "START" button in Layout Editor to see what happen

Another suggestion?




My comment about this method is it's very hardworking process and I needed a lot of HD space (about 18-20 Gb)... And Scenarist is forced to needed... But it works!

[ken123]

Originally posted by rmtaibo
Well, Maybe I was a little desperate.
After seen the window error message, Scenarist was still working around.
It began multiplexing and I was surprised when it was making the Video_TS folder with all VTS files...

So, a good advice could be open your Task Manager Window to monitor the CPU use of Scenarist..

Well, I'm happy because I made my first sucessfully conversion from a PAL to NTSC movie

I just finished burn my DVD+RW and It works very good.

Menus working (No sound, because there's no audio in original DVD menu)
Chapters works very good
Video smooth and with no artifacts. Great quality video with CCE

But not all could be perfect...
I forgot to move the position of all subtitles (Oh my god, about 5.380 subtitles distributed in 24 different languages streams) :(

Because the 574 pixels height of PAL screen, the subtitles are out of bottom screen... I need to move 100 pixels upside to fix it in 480 pixels height of NTSC screen...

Can you tell me the procedure & software to be used to convert from PAL to NTSC? I have the VOB & IFO files in my PC now.
Thanks.

[rmtaibo]

Big 3 tools (new) method

Link:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/scenaid.htm

Try first with a simple dvd structure. I used Rattle and Hum, only 1 main VTS and 1 Trailers VTS

Diferences with that method:

Numenu4U:
In avisynth settings check "Convert format PAL<-->NTSC"
And modify the AVS scrip to Convertfps (Add/Drop frames)
In standard settings Menu Threshold to 0 Mb (Select all menus)

DIF4U:
Select 0 Mb min to demux (You need to convert to PAL<-->NTSC all VTS)
The AVS script of DIF4U is not precise, you need to copy the same AVS script that NuMenu4U applies to your conversion method (PAL interlaced or progressive 25 fps, NTSC film 23.973 fps or 29.97 fps). Copy it to DIF4U AVS script window.
I need to detect the type of video first, manually, to select what method to copy from Numenu4U AVS script and use it to DIF4U

Scenarist:
Due to an error sometimes you need to reload the *.scp file manually.
Copy the file automate_scenarist.exe file from the numenu4u install directory and overwrite the one in the scenaid directory (Big thanks to D3s7)

I still need to solve the problem about resize and reallocate subtitles. I'm testing with Srt2Sup.exe or Subrip to know which method is easier...

[D3s7]

I hate to tell you but ScenAid in no way shape or form supports format conversion....

[rmtaibo]

Originally posted by D3s7
I hate to tell you but ScenAid in no way shape or form supports format conversion....

No, but It is needed to authoring the conversion.

I give my thanks to you because the file automate_scenarist.exe that came with Scenaid doesn't work. And the automate_scenarist version that came with NuMenu4u is the key for a good script build to scenarist.

The real secret is a good AVS script selection for Encoding from PAL to NTSC...

Scenaid is crucial for Authoring....

And Numenu4u is crucial for menus conversion...

Now I need a good tool to resize subpictures...