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golem
8th February 2005, 00:30
I am contemplating upgrading my current entertainment from digital cable to VOOM (satelite HD). Since I do quite a bit of capturing I would like to make sure that their method of service will not prohibit this. A couple of questions are:

1. Is there any sort of copy protection present in the output from the VOOM reciever?
2. As I will be capturing post tuner/reciever what would be some quality choices in capture cards?.


The above is derived from my reading that copyright protection (QAM) is present in digital cable premium channels and not yet present in terrestrials. I was also initially thinking about using MyHD MDP-120 and only terestrial sources but, now that I'm thinking VOOM, the tuner is not at all a necessity. Additionally, that card only has S-Video & Composite inputs while the VOOM reciever comes equiped with DVI and Component outputs...in addition to analog.

I've been scouring the internet for a week attempting to brush up on this subject but it seems with DVB/HD there are many more variables to deal with and most sites are geared towards terrestrial capture guides. Any and all info/suggestions/pointers are greatfully welcomed.

*Edit: I capture to AVI (huffyuv). I temporarily forgot that the MDP-120 has provisions for a daughter-card allowing DVI input. ;-)


Regards,
golem

anth6000
8th February 2005, 12:58
I looked up the capture card you mentioned. I am quoting another gentleman here

" That's the daughtercard for the MyHD card. That allows MyHD owners with DVI video cards to loop their computer signal through the HD tuner card's DVI OUTPUT. There is no DVI input whatsoever.

I'd like to have a DVI input on my computer for $89 too, but it just not a reality."

If this is possible I would be interested heck I would even go for a component in just so I could get the 720p/1080i on my pc.

oddwunn
8th February 2005, 18:28
1. Is there any sort of copy protection present in the output from the VOOM reciever?

Yes, the DVI output is protected by HDCP.

How are you planning to capture the Voom signal? There is no way possible that I am aware of short of modifying the hardware with a 169 time device, if such a device even exists for Voom boxes.

Anth6000 is correct...There is no DVI input on the MyHD card or daughtercard...just a DVI output.

golem
8th February 2005, 19:14
Thanks for those replies...even though they were probably the last things I truly wanted to hear. :(

@anth6000 -
Seems I misread that daughtercard info. Thanks for tracking that down and enlightening me.

@oddwun -
I figured VOOM wouldn't overlook copy protection. After reading the AVSforum THREAD (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=403695) pertaining to using firewire without the need for a capture card I was a bit excited but then noted VOOM's reciever connection diagram eludes to the fact that there is no firewire out port. There still would have been encryption on most channels but maybe a few would have slipped by, at least it would have been a cheap way to find out.


Appreciative again to both of you. Probably saved me a lot of time and money!

- golem

htguy
22nd March 2005, 17:19
Originally posted by anth6000
I looked up the capture card you mentioned. I am quoting another gentleman here

" That's the daughtercard for the MyHD card. That allows MyHD owners with DVI video cards to loop their computer signal through the HD tuner card's DVI OUTPUT. There is no DVI input whatsoever.

I'd like to have a DVI input on my computer for $89 too, but it just not a reality."

If this is possible I would be interested heck I would even go for a component in just so I could get the 720p/1080i on my pc.


The daughtercard can be used for dvi input pass through. no recording