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dArkbIRDz
7th February 2005, 15:53
Hey,

Recently ive been encoding some stuff in AVC and its been goin well. Yesterday i did an episode of an anime show and when i try to play it, i get a C++ Error (it mighta been runtime?). I tried re-encoding it and still at the same place it happens. Im thinking it might be because H.264 is decoding with FFDShow. I would like to have nero try decoding it (i think it can) but for some reason i cant get it too. I might be doing it wrong.... Can someone tell me how?

sillKotscha
7th February 2005, 16:07
the ~ same I've asked @german doom9 board

go ahead Nero... please let the Filter_Suite decode vfw encoded x264 streams :D

cheers

JohnV
7th February 2005, 16:54
Originally posted by dArkbIRDz
Hey,

Recently ive been encoding some stuff in AVC and its been goin well. Yesterday i did an episode of an anime show and when i try to play it, i get a C++ Error (it mighta been runtime?). I tried re-encoding it and still at the same place it happens. Im thinking it might be because H.264 is decoding with FFDShow. I would like to have nero try decoding it (i think it can) but for some reason i cant get it too. I might be doing it wrong.... Can someone tell me how? What player you are using? If you use Media Player Classic, you can go to View->Options->Filters->Overrides, Add Filter "Nero Video Decoder", and make it preferred.

sillKotscha
7th February 2005, 17:24
for me that's not the point...

dooh, even in my native language I wasn't able to make my point clear... even though I try it here:

asp.mp4 -> Nero Video Decoder: ok
avc.mp4 -> Nero DVD Decoder: ok

avc.avi -> only ffdshow is able to decode the stream even if the 4cc is h264 or avc1.

Tonight I'll try leaving the 4cc of x264 at default (VSSH) and than I'll see if Nero can decode the stream.

EDIT: I do know, that MP4 doesn't use 4cc's...

bond
7th February 2005, 17:27
Originally posted by dArkbIRDz
Recently ive been encoding some stuff in AVC and its been goin well. Yesterday i did an episode of an anime show and when i try to play it, i get a C++ Error (it mighta been runtime?). I tried re-encoding it and still at the same place it happens. Im thinking it might be because H.264 is decoding with FFDShow. I would like to have nero try decoding it (i think it can) but for some reason i cant get it too. I might be doing it wrong.... Can someone tell me how?disable in ffdshow (under "codecs") the option to decode h.264

Originally posted by sillKotscha
Tonight I'll try leaving the 4cc of x264 at default (VSSH) and than I'll see if Nero can decode the stream.hm must be an old x264 version if VSSH is the default fourcc?

i read on IRC that neros decoder handles the H264 fourcc, but i didnt try it myself

sillKotscha
7th February 2005, 17:33
hm, it wasn't that old but with todays release (revision117) it's h264 (again?)... I'll see ;)

SeeMoreDigital
7th February 2005, 17:41
Originally posted by bond
i read on IRC that neros decoder handles the H264 fourcc, but i didnt try it myself This is most true!

If you check the 4CC of your AVC.avi stream with say, "Nic's 4CC Changer" and it says "h264", you will need to change the 4CC code to "H264" before Nero's filters can play the file.


Cheers

virus
7th February 2005, 19:47
Originally posted by sillKotscha
hm, it wasn't that old but with todays release (revision117) it's h264 (again?)... I'll see ;)
It has been "h264" up to revision 115. Starting from revision 116, the default 4cc is "H264", which should allow Nero decoder to work. (press Load Defaults in the VfW GUI)

dArkbIRDz
8th February 2005, 00:15
Ok, i wasnt using MPC (i was trying zoom and TCMP). Is it possible with either of those? On MPC when i load i get:

Stream 0

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO {E06D80E3-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}
bFixedSizeSamples: 0
bTemporalCompression: 1
lSampleSize: 0
cbFormat: 164

I went to the Overrides and added Nero Video Decoder, and i also set to prefer, then below i messed around with major type as {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} and subtype as {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} but with no luck. Im still gettin the same thing

namchik
11th February 2005, 04:21
I noticed the crash with C++ error on older builds of ffdshow, now in ffdshow-20050204 AVC playback is OK.
Also try overriding in Zoom Player's options: Filter control => Customized Media Playback => check "enable customized media playback"=> audio and video decoders => H264. => Add filter (Nero Video Decoder). For me it works...