NuMenu4u 2.0.1

[Zeul]

New build as follows:

I apologise for the confusing version builds of late, but every time I get close to a final I end up adding something else :D , so starting with this build there will be a linear build scale. This is 2.0.0 as the original incarnation (using Ifoedit) was 1.0.0

Anyways:
I have finally been given access to a menu with mpeg audio so this is now supported.
Support for CCE Basic, CCE 2.5 ,2.66 ,2.67 ,2.7+, Quenc, Procoder. You will need to specify the paths to the relevant files as required, and then choose the preferred encoder.
An additional setting now resides in the encoder settings to specify the Procoder CQ value.
Proper support for a video asset that has stills as some cells (thanks to D3s7 for vobtest.exe to assist - bundled)
Revpulldown is now the default pulldown app.
For ReBuilder users a new option exists (in default) to enable ReBuilder support. This will force the destination folder to have every file copied into it (inc title vobs). This is then the source folder in ReBuilder. ReBuilder is automatically started on NuMenu4u exit.
Change to the internal setting where the CCE Version was not recorded, causing a potential mismatch error.

Bundle: NuMenu4u & VobTest by D3s7
http://www.numenu4u.com/NuMenu4u.2.0.0.zip

Revpulldown: http://www.numenu4u.com/revpulldown.exe
EclPro: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83334&highlight=eclpro

:D

[Sir Didymus]

Hi Zeul.

Just downloading...
Will report in case of troubles, even if it seems difficult any is present at all, at least judging from the previous build, that was alread excellent!!!

By the way, afraid my suggestion about PgcDemux was misleading, since drifted by the wrong assumption cell demux was already supported by the application... Confirming it isn't...

Regards,
SD

[Darklistener]

Hi Zeul
nice release as always :)

I just installed the new version and there is something i dont understand. CCE SP 2.7x is not supported by eclcce yet right?
And if I understand it right Numenu4u will use eclcce 4 version < 2.7x
and vor version > 2.7x not.
I specifyed the cce executable and numenu4u sayed version 2.70.01.05, what is right.
But if I close numenu4u I have to specify it again because it is not saved and also the cce executable is located in the eclcce.ini.
I run a test and it stops because eclcce says that this is no supported version.

[Zeul]

After specifying the path to CCE 2.7, did you go back into the encoder and physically select CCE from the list of encoders? The ccepath is saved into the ecl.ini in all instances regardless of whether ecl supports it. This removes the need to keep running ecl when a new version is installed.

[Zeul]

Updated build:
correction to the errormsg if pulldown.exe did not exist in folder. It should have checked for revpulldown.exe
If a cellid demux was initiated then there was a chance that the cells would not been labelled correctly - result a script error.

http://www.numenu4u.com/NuMenu4u.2.0.1.zip

[wmansir]

Hey Zeul,

I've had a few menus which have parts detected as interlaced or hybrid that are actually telecine. I would like to be able to do IVTC on these, but it doesn't appear that pulldown is performed on them if I just edit the .avs scripts and also the scenarist scripts fail.

Would it be possible to detect the framerate of the .mpv files after encoding, or perhaps just allow the user to adjust the thresholds for interlaced/hybrid/telecine?

[Zeul]

@wmansir
I would like to see the log and the d2v files for the wrongly diagnosed vobs/cells. Being in PAL land my access to film/telecine material is almost non-existant. What I do have tends to be either all Film or Interlaced. In fact any d2v you have which is not interlaced would be useful. If you could name the d2v files like film001 / telecine001 / hybrid001 etc etc, that would be great.

I agree that is a good idea to check the mpv afterwards. I already parse the header to add pan-scan info (if the encoder used doesn't support it) so it should be easy to add that. Alternatively we could set up an additional command in the AVS script eg #pulldown. And if this script is used on an asset then I can instantly tell pulldown is required. Of course that is assuming that I pick the correct script in the first place :D

Whilst on this topic, I am interested to know how the menues play on a standalone WHEN procoder/cce basic/quenc has been used AND the menus are 4:3 pan-scan. At this point I am unsure whether every GOP header needs to have p-s information added or just the first. Presently I do just the first, which scenarist accepts without any problems.

When I have some files to look at and adjust the parsing code I'll throw over a test build :)

Thanks

[Darklistener]

Thx Zeul
Didn't know that I have to select it now.

What I also wanted to ask is if it is possible to add a size calc?

[wmansir]

I sent you a few sample files via email. I'm dead tired now or I would discuss it further (and probably would have given you more/better files). I just grabbed a few quickly before I head to bed.

[Zeul]

@Darklistener
I had decided that once the encoder path had been set, i would NOT automatically set this as the default encoder, however, maybe that idea is flawed :D
I suppose i had set it like that because i was using all 4 encoders during testing, but, a user would only set the path to the encoder of their choice. I will change this in the next build. Does it encode now?
What would the size calc be for? It is not possible to calculate the output size until demuxing has taken place, and, and wac/mpeg to AC3 conversion has been completed. Or are you suggesting a % decrease? eg reduce menu size by 30% - now that is possible. Or maybe an overall size calculation. Again that could be initiated after the intial loadup.eg original overall menu size 500MB, reduce to 300MB etc.

[Dvd@Best]

@Zeul
Great build
i was using your app to extract all the menus , audio and subtitles.
I choose no encoding , but still numenu4u was asking me path for relavant encoder.

Regards

[Zeul]

DVD@Best
fixed in next build

[Darklistener]

Hi Zeul

If I set the path for more then one encoder it would be also good if one of them is set as default.

I see know its impossibly to do. I thought it would be easier if I can see how big the new menu will get with the selected bitrate etc.

I have tested the 2.0.1 release and got some audio error. I send it to your email.

Thx :)

[Chubmeister]

Much appreciated Zeul, this has sorted out the two titles with mpeg audio menus I couldn't do before! Nice work!

[wfn1]

awesome update as always!

i have this: Procedure Name: StartNuMenu4u
Module Name: ExecuteProgram

Error Number: 5
Error Description: Invalid procedure call or argument
Error Source: Project1
Error Line: 200
Call Stack:
StartNuMenu4u --> ExecuteProgram
go_Click --> MainForm


pls lemme know if you need files

[Dvd@Best]

@ Zeul

Thanks for the fixed.

One thing i wanna ask here , is it possible to include a option or checkmark which allow u to only import ur menu assest with thier corresponding audio and subtitle .

Why i am asking like this ?
Because i use to reauthor everything and do make some changes thats why dont use the orginal sturucture of the dvd, but import menu and creating like 20 buttons on 10 menus pages take lot of time.

Your app is able to create menus and buttons in it , like same as it was in original dvd , but there is no option for me to restrict it , that it shud only make a script which only import the menus with buttons ( empty commands) on track menu of scenarist.And dont touch the scenario

I hope i made clear about my problems , if i dont please ask me i can try explain.

Regards

Dvd@Best

[SlipGun]

Just tried the new release. I get the error:

vobtest: can't open

Followed by an Error 53: File not found :confused:

Vobtest.exe exists in the NuMenu4u directory (did a full install of 2.0). 2.0.1 gives me the same error.

[Zeul]

SlipGun
Strange i can't replicate that, have tried some really strange file location with and w/out spaces. Does a file called VOBAnalysis.txt exist in the frameserving folder. If it does what is written in it.

[SlipGun]

I'm afraid there is no VOBAnalysis.txt ...

[Zeul]

ah ok that would explain it :)
i wonder why the vob couldn't be opened for analysis. assuming a vob exists in the subtitles folder can you run debug (get files...) and shoot them over.
thanks

Chubmeister
Yeah that was a toughie, glad we got it sorted, thanks for your help

[SlipGun]

There's supposed to be a VOB in the subtitles folder? There isn't any, just an IFO and two other files. :scared:

[Zeul]

yep there should be. can you show a dir listing of the demuxed folder, and send me the log file. did your output folder have any spaces? not that that should matter.
Also what build of dvddecrypter you running...although...i thought i checked for that now..

[SlipGun]

My bad ... I just realized that the first movie file (VTS_01_1.VOB) on the DVD is unreadable. The IFOs, BUPs and menu VOB are all okay though, so I don't see why it failed. Tried a working copy of the same DVD and NuMenu worked great.

btw, does adjusting the CQ value really make a difference in the Procoder output? I get fantastic results at 1500 kbps, save for blockiness in a few frames that seems to be the same whether the CQ is set to 1, 11 or 19.

[Zeul]

SlipGun
Glad to see you got it working. I think if the vob was unreadable then dvddec would have failed before any demuxing started. No files then all sorts of errors will occur. Gonna have to add a check for that i think.

[SlipGun]

About the ProCoder blockiness I mentioned earlier ... it seems to happen in 'spikes' (always in the same areas of any given menu encode and always at the beginning or end of a video stream - except for one DVD which always rendered a whole video stream blocky). Raising the bitrate does nothing to stop this happening in otherwise perfect encodes.

Here's an example done at 2000 kbps, the results of which are pretty much the same as those at 1500.

Beginning of video stream 3:

Blocky frame (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/slipgun/matrixr2bad.jpg)

Barely 2 seconds later:

Perfect frame (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/slipgun/matrixr2good.jpg)

Any suggestions on how I can take care of this?

[Zeul]

SlipGun
Sorry I can't help you there, I believe talking to robot1 may help, the author of eclpro. He asked me to add the CQ value. BTW how many passes have you specified. I will do some test runs myself to see if I can find the problem.

[robot1]

@Zeul
Done another test now.
New CQ dropdown for ProCoder works well.

@SlipGun
It's really strange to find such a blocky output with ProCoder. (I hope "blocky" is the right term...)
Can you check in the FRAMESERVING subdir if the *.pt.*.mpv files have the same blocky quality?
Anyway... Is it Matrix PAL (R2) version?
I can try it tomorrow.

[SlipGun]

Actually those screenshots were taken from the MPVs, which matches the final VOB output.

The Matrix DVD is disc 1 from the Ultimate Matrix Collection (new menus, redone audio and video), NTSC. Interlaced menus, of course. I get similar results with other movies too (which are similarly NTSC with interlaced menus).

[rmtaibo]

Is there a way that Numenu4u can handle no-audio menus?

[robot1]

@SlipGun
Two questions:
just to be sure: have you taken the screenshot from the *pt*.mpv and not from the .m2v (in NEW_M2V folder)?
CQ parameters works for the "One Pass VBR" mode.
Can you have a test with "One Pass VBR" in the "Video Encoding Method" and CQ=1 (best quality)?
If the result is still blocky, can you add this line in the EclPRO.ini:
AlwaysFrame=1
under the [Quality] section
(It turns on the Frame mode encoding for interlaced sources - supported by ProCoder and not supported by CCE. It's experimental and untested: DVD-RB can't mux a stream frame encoded, but I think Scenarist shouldn't have problems).
Thanks for your tests.

[SlipGun]

Yes, they're from the FRAMESERVING folder. The files in the NEW_M2V folder are fine.

I will get back to you on the tests soon.

Edit:

Ran One-pass VBR at CQ 1 and ... success! Not as nice as the results with 2 passes, but none of that sporadic ultra-blockiness.

I went ahead anyway and tried a 2-pass VBR with the AlwaysFrame parameter set and got the same weirdness as before. So it looks like a problem with the 2-pass mode.

Everything was done at 2000 kbps.

[Zeul]

rmtaibo
I am releasing an update within a day or so.

[damian_dimitri]

I only seem to get Numenu to work with cce 2.5 and ecl.
Which works great together with dvdrebuilder.

CCE 2.7 seems to be started through ecl also..which ends in a warning that ecl doesn't support it. ANy one else experiencing this?

ty

Damian

[rmtaibo]

Originally posted by Zeul
rmtaibo
I am releasing an update within a day or so.

Sounds Great! (I can't wait...) :devil:

[damian_dimitri]

Just used numenu on The Patriot (pal). Afther it succeeds in building the video_ts folder for dvd-rebuilder. I select the right folders in rebuilder...start preparing...but get a warning about "illegal video gob files - possible encrypted source"
I use latest numenu..ofcourse.. dvdrebuilder 0.72, cce 2.5 and DGMPGDec 1.2.0 RC2 . Gonna try an earlier version of dgmpgdec.

Damian

[Sir Didymus]

Originally posted by damian_dimitri
CCE 2.7 seems to be started through ecl also..which ends in a warning that ecl doesn't support it. ANy one else experiencing this?

ty
Damian

Confirming:
http://img209.exs.cx/img209/5345/image11sc.th.gif (http://img209.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img209&image=image11sc.gif)

Just tested also with CCE 2.67 and Procoder (it works very well; just noticed a very negligible glitch, that is the Log Window is not updated when ECLPRO is selected...).

@Zeul: Keep on with you excellent application...

Cheers,
SD

[ffreese]

Thanks a lot. Working fine :)

BUT: after copying unaltered files into the directory, DVD-RB only starts - that means, the program is starting - not the transcoding process...

Maybe you could add another option to start transcoding?

Thanks und bye,

Frank

[Zeul]

I don't think rebuilder has any commandline support. So i can open rebuilder, but apart from that...

[Dvd@Best]

Originally posted by Dvd@Best
@ Zeul

Thanks for the fixed.

One thing i wanna ask here , is it possible to include a option or checkmark which allow u to only import ur menu assest with thier corresponding audio and subtitle .

Why i am asking like this ?
Because i use to reauthor everything and do make some changes thats why dont use the orginal sturucture of the dvd, but import menu and creating like 20 buttons on 10 menus pages take lot of time.

Your app is able to create menus and buttons in it , like same as it was in original dvd , but there is no option for me to restrict it , that it shud only make a script which only import the menus with buttons ( empty commands) on track menu of scenarist.And dont touch the scenario

I hope i made clear about my problems , if i dont please ask me i can try explain.

Regards

Dvd@Best

Seems like no body had a look at my post.

[D3s7]

DVD@Best

a) That's not a good way to get anyone to read your posts

b) This is an old thread now

c) That would be more of a PM type of request

d) Please re-read the forum rules especially #11... consider this a warning

e) you can do this yourself.. simply modify the script and cut out that section...