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Malphas
20th January 2005, 00:41
I'm trying to convert the PAL Ghost In The Shell DVD into a Matroska file; loosely following this DVD to OGM tutorial: http://www.nanomessiah.com/dvd-backup/ogm-divx. I ripped the DVD with Decrypter in IFO mode, ran the VOBs through DGIndex and converted the AC3 files to OGG tracks with BeSweet and the OagMachine GUI. So far so good. I then wanted to de-interlace and resize the video and crop the black borders with AviSynth and the AVSGenie GUI, however as soon as I tried to open the D2V file it returned this error message:

AVIFileSource: Couldn't open file
(C:\AVSGenie v0.2.5.16\temp1.avs, line1)

Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong? Perhaps I haven't configured it correctly, I copied avisynth.dll into the same directory as AVSGenie and then entered the path to it in Options > Paths, anything else I need to do?

Leak
20th January 2005, 07:52
Originally posted by Malphas
I'm trying to convert the PAL Ghost In The Shell DVD into a Matroska file [...] I then wanted to de-interlace and resize the video and crop the black borders with AviSynth [...]


First of all, don't deinterlace here - the movie should already be progressive if it's the PAL version or be perfectly IVTC-able if it's the NTSC version.


AVIFileSource: Couldn't open file
(C:\AVSGenie v0.2.5.16\temp1.avs, line1)


You don't open D2V files with AviSource but with MPEG2Source, which comes with DGDecode.

neily
20th January 2005, 10:11
Hi,

I have to say that due to the large amount of work involved, lack of time, and lack of general interest and feedback, I pretty much stopped developing AVSGenie a couple of yesrs ago, though I still use it myself quite a bit. AVISynth and available plugins have moved on in the mean time.

To simplify opening files, I included file associations for file opening (Options..Drag & Drop Associations) which are editable, but only include the default AVISynth file handlers and MPEG2DEC and MPEGDecoder, which was all there was around at the time. D2V files would be associated with MPEG2DEC if installed, and DirectShowSource if not.

To use DGDecode would require a bit of manual work, either entering the function as a UserLine, or setting up a User Plugin".

trolltuning
20th January 2005, 16:06
@neily
Please don't think that no one had any intrest in your gui. I used it quite a bit. I didn't give any feedback because I was new enough that I wasn't always sure when a problem was the gui's fault and when it was user error. It was also a great help in learning oop notation.

Malphas
20th January 2005, 20:33
Originally posted by Leak
First of all, don't deinterlace here - the movie should already be progressive if it's the PAL version or be perfectly IVTC-able if it's the NTSC version.
I thought that images such as this meant it was interlaced.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/LoboParamilitary/ghost.jpg

Does this mean that the majority of PAL sources are progressive and interlaced DVDs are a minority?

EDIT: Oh, it also says 'Interlaced' in the 'Frame Type' caption.

I'm not even gonna pretend to fully understand everything that you guys have told me, thanks anyway but I'm gonna read into what each of these programs does again and then start the whole thing from scratch.

neily
21st January 2005, 00:14
@trolltuning,

It was never the GUI's fault :) . I did produce for myself a couple of bug fixes, but my need for keeping updated diminished, and all of the filters, parameters, and plugins were hard-coded, and took a big chunk of time to keep updated. I had done a rewrite going from v1.x to v2.x of AVISynth, but as was discussed at the time, for any potential GUI builder, a published (?XML) list of properties of all filters and plugins was really required. That thread never really took off. About a year ago, during a PC reinstall, I lost some of my custom components. Oops! So now I can't even keep it up to date for myself.

Leak
21st January 2005, 08:19
Originally posted by Malphas
I thought that images such as this meant it was interlaced.

Does this mean that the majority of PAL sources are progressive and interlaced DVDs are a minority?

Ewww... if that frame came right off a PAL DVD then it's been converted to PAL in the worst possible way. Is this the UK Ghost In The Shell DVD, or which one is it?

Ghost In The Shell is a movie, so it was made at 24 FPS, which normally gets converted to PAL by just speeding it up to 25 FPS, while it's being converted to NTSC by telecining, i.e. artificially duplicating 2 fields out of every 8, which IVTC tries to undo to get back to 24 FPS.

If your PAL DVD contains combing like this, it's either phase shifted (which can be easily undone) or it's a very crappy NTSC->PAL conversion, which is somewhere between hard and impossible to totally undo.

Could you cut out a few seconds from the VOB where the combing is very visible (i.e. a high motion scene) and put it up somewhere?

Malphas
21st January 2005, 17:27
Yes; this is the UK version, it's distributed by Manga Video.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/LoboParamilitary/ghost2.jpg

I took this in VLC Media Player with deinterlacing disabled. In the scene the camera is quickly moving from left to right.

Apart from this I got everything to work fine, I just wrote the AviSynth script in notepad.

EDIT: I just realised you meant footage not another image. I don't actually know how to cut out a piece of the VOB and I don't have anywhere to upload it supposing I could. It's not a big deal anyway, I don't need to use this particular DVD, I'm just trying to learn the process having never used anything more complex than AutoGK before.

Leak
21st January 2005, 17:49
Originally posted by Malphas
Yes; this is the UK version, it's distributed by Manga Video.

I guess the name "Mangle Video" would be more appropriate, then... :eek:

(The US DVD I have IVTCs well, so it can be converted without blending - it's a movie, for $DEITY's sake...)

EDIT: I just realised you meant footage not another image. I don't actually know how to cut out a piece of the VOB

Cuttermaran works great for this. You can find it in Doom9's software section.

and I don't have anywhere to upload it supposing I could. It's not a big deal anyway, I don't need to use this particular DVD, I'm just trying to learn the process having never used anything more complex than AutoGK before.

http://www.rapidshare.de/en/main.html

I doubt that a few seconds cut out from a DVD would count as "No files that are not allowed to be shared", but their mileage may vary...

np: Autechre - Second Bad Vilbel (Anvil Vapre)

Malphas
24th January 2005, 14:01
http://rapidshare.de/files-en/407634/ghostcut.m2v.html (18MB)